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Old 06-11-2018, 01:12 PM   #1
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Looking into a target style 22 pistol for fun and casual competition shoots.

I would like to get into this as economically as practical. The new Ruger Mark IV 22/45 with 5.5" bull barrel is at the top of my list right now, and sub $300 online. I like the aftermarket parts availability too.

Suggestions? Buckmark, Victory, other?
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:30 PM   #2
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Ruger Mark III Hunter or a Browning Buckmark would be my top two choices.
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:42 PM   #3
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Don't get the Mark 4. Save some money and get the Mark 3. You will have to learn how to clean it, but you will save some money.



I am a 4H pistol coach and all of our kids shoot the Ruger Mark 3 and 4 or the S&W Victory.

Also I would not get the 22/45. You can not "sling shot" the slide to load it. That is an issue we have had.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:22 PM   #4
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Find a High Standard Supermatic. You can't go wrong.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:43 PM   #5
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I'm partial to the MkII generation...find a good clean used bull bbl.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:50 PM   #6
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MK2 Ruger is hard to beat
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:56 PM   #7
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Thanks for the suggestions. I saw a 10" Mark II yesterday. Maybe I should go back and look closer at it.
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I've got a Mark II with the bull barrel. Sweet shooting little gun. Reassembly can take a few tries but it's not the insurmountable task some think it is.
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Best one i ever shot was a High Standard Supermatic Citation. It had a flutter bull barrel and was scary accurate.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:54 PM   #10
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Best one i ever shot was a High Standard Supermatic Citation. It had a flutter bull barrel and was scary accurate.
I looked at a bunch of High Standards at the last gun show. People were proud of them, and the prices reflected it.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:55 AM   #11
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I have a S&W model 41 that shoots lights out. They are pretty expensive but you can find used ones now and then.

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Old 06-12-2018, 06:58 AM   #12
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I've got a Mark II with the bull barrel. Sweet shooting little gun. Reassembly can take a few tries but it's not the insurmountable task some think it is.
There are a ton of youtube videos that will show you exactly how to tear it apart and put it back together.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:07 AM   #13
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I have a Mark III that I ended up putting a Tactical Solutions barrel on and added a red dot scope. Super accurate and lots of fun.

I would go with the Mark III/IV or the Buckmark. From what I have seen, I would not go with the Victory. Not impressed and they are not selling that well. JMHO
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:16 AM   #14
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I’ve owned all the Ruger’s, and a High Standard Citation II, but in my experience none could outshoot my Target Buckmark.

It may come down to which one fits your hand best. I like the 22/45 grip best of the Ruger’s.

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Old 06-12-2018, 08:32 AM   #15
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I have a Mark II bull barrel that is 35+ years old. Itís still amazingly accurate.

But if I were shopping for a new one it would be a Volquartsen.


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Old 06-12-2018, 08:57 AM   #16
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I have a S&W model 41 that shoots lights out. They are pretty expensive but you can find used ones now and then.

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I have one of The Model 41's they are awesome but they are North of a Grand
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:35 PM   #17
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Don't get the Mark 4. Save some money and get the Mark 3.
Can you explain why?
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:52 PM   #18
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Can you explain why?
I don't understand either. Why do some of ya'll prefer the Mark 2 or 3 over the 4?

In my shopping, I haven't found a significant cost savings. Are the older ones really better?
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:54 PM   #19
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Also are there any other "problems" with the 22/45 grip? It feels better in my hand.

I can get over not being able to slingshot the slide closed.
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Some folks like the grip angle on the 1,2,3 over the 4
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:06 PM   #21
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Some folks like the grip angle on the 1,2,3 over the 4
Gotcha, thank you.
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Can you explain why?
The mark 4 is a new design. It is easy to take apart and costs more than the older models.
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:56 PM   #23
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There is an aftermarket piece that you can install to slingshot the 22/45. I don't know how good they are. You can buy them on eBay and see videos on YouTube.
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Old 06-12-2018, 02:59 PM   #24
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There is an aftermarket piece that you can install to slingshot the 22/45. I don't know how good they are. You can buy them on eBay and see videos on YouTube.
Got my boy a Halo charging ring from Tandemkross that he runs at competitions. No issues with it at all.

Video of him running a stage last weekend.
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The mark 4 is a new design. It is easy to take apart and costs more than the older models.
Yes, duh. You recommended AGAINST the one that's new and easier to take apart. Why?
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Yes, duh. You recommended AGAINST the one that's new and easier to take apart. Why?
The OP wanted to be as economical as practical. The older models are cheaper.
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The OP wanted to be as economical as practical. The older models are cheaper.
Oh I thought you just meant that in your opinion the old ones were a better choice.

I think you're wrong on price. Show me a $285 Mark III:

https://grabagun.com/ruger-mkiv-22-4...5-5-bl-sy.html
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I don't understand either. Why do some of ya'll prefer the Mark 2 or 3 over the 4?

In my shopping, I haven't found a significant cost savings. Are the older ones really better?
I personally think the older design is superior over the newest gen...the II is a known inherently accurate gun & gaining collectability. This makes it better money spent in the long run as well. I would pony up for a real clean one in the original box. You will find it to hold it's value & possible increase depending on condition long term while you enjoy shooting it.

The MKII slab side is a good collector right now if you can find one.
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Ok, thank you
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Mark II Target model. Brought mine with 4 mages and 750 rounds of ammo and custom case for $310.
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Mark II Target model. Brought mine with 4 mages and 750 rounds of ammo and custom case for $310.
Keep an eye out for me if you come across another Mark II, Manny.
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I don't know how much you're wanting to spend but the Beretta model 87 Target is a super accurate pistol. And they're pretty sweet lookin too.
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Keep an eye out for me if you come across another Mark II, Manny.
Sure will.
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Keep an eye out for me if you come across another Mark II, Manny.
Hey now, go ask for help on your classified ad... moocher.
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I don't know how much you're wanting to spend but the Beretta model 87 Target is a super accurate pistol. And they're pretty sweet lookin too.
That is more than I was wanting to spend to get started, but if I really get into rimfire shoots, I will keep that in mind.
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I got busy and forgot to bid on this one, that sold for $272.

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I had a high standard Trophy with a 7 1/2 inch fluted bull barrel and it was about as good as I’ve ever shot. I actually killed a couple of hogs and a yot with it as well.
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I have a Mark II bull barrel that is 35+ years old. Itís still amazingly accurate.

But if I were shopping for a new one it would be a Volquartsen.


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Yes the older 22/45 is the one to get. Don't get the newer model with the funky and one more button to push last round indicator.
10"? Might as well buy a rifle? 6" max IMO.
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The two 10" Rugers I had were the best accurate rimfire guns from 25 yards out.

A little heavy up front but 2 hand shooting for the smaller people/kids it is dead accurate.
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I got busy and forgot to bid on this one, that sold for $272.

That would have been a good snag...it's a buyers market. Be patient.
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IMO my Belgian browning challenger shot much better than my markII. I bought the ruger new in 1980 and the browning used many years later. The browning also has a lot more style and appears to be selling for about the same price as a new ruger.

When you shoot with friends you stand out from the everyday arms. My .02
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Best one i ever shot was a High Standard Supermatic Citation. It had a flutter bull barrel and was scary accurate.
I had one and killed a lot of critters with it.
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IMO my Belgian browning challenger shot much better than my markII. I bought the ruger new in 1980 and the browning used many years later. The browning also has a lot more style and appears to be selling for about the same price as a new ruger.

When you shoot with friends you stand out from the everyday arms. My .02
The Brownings also don't suffer from gunk getting packed into the closed area behind the breech face like the Rugers do.
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We have the S&W victory that shoots lights out. And crazy easy to tear down to clean.


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Ruger mkIs, mkIIs and mkIIs are not that hard to do. I coukd break down a ruger and put it back together in under 5 minutes.
Takes practice.
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Nobody have said anything about the Beretta Buck Rodgers space gun. That thing is funky lookin' IMO. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

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If you get a mkIII, get a volquartsen trigger for the reset and overtravel adjustments. Also get a bushing and volquartsen sear to do away with the magazine safety and give you a sweet trigger pull. Remove the loaded chamber indicator, you can get blank offs, or leave open. The magazine safety and loaded chamber indicator can cause function and reliability issues. See rimfirecentral.com for info on all the mfg's.
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Ruger makes 5.5", 6 7/8", and 10" barreled models. I prefer the 6 7/8", although the bull barrels are a little front heavy. This is for open sights. You don't need the sight radius with an optic (I do for open sights). My favorite is the 6 7/8" slab side target model, Artos has one pictured in post 40. Took it home, ran a couple hundred rounds through it, then performed the modifications I noted above. A small red dot is a lot of fun, and a suppressor would be even more fun.
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