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Old 02-10-2018, 07:50 PM   #1
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I will start by saying that we live in a higher end gated neighborhood. Some of you live very close. In the last 4 years we have had a double homicide, followed by a neighbor dying at night with no clear cause (36 yo) and today two dead from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning - evidently from a running car in the garage. My wife is ready to move thinking this place has bad ju ju. I am actually feeling she may be right. We lived in an adjacent neighborhood for 8 years, no crazy stuff going on. I have to think our little gated section is ranking off the charts at this point. Any crazy stuff in y'alls hoods like this?

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Old 02-10-2018, 07:53 PM   #2
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We're the latest two suicide or old folks who forgot to shut the car off?
Does seem odd to have that many in one neighborhood but it would not make me move
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:55 PM   #3
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We had a hit man family murder in our boring surburban neighborhood a couple years ago.
But sounds like your hood is way above the curve.

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We're the latest two suicide or old folks who forgot to shut the car off?
Does seem odd to have that many in one neighborhood but it would not make me move
One 54 yo woman and a teenager. Weird thing is that all of the garage entry doors automatically close from this builder. Seems that door would have to have been proped open.

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Old 02-10-2018, 08:06 PM   #5
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The double homicide is a little troubling. What’s the story behind that?
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Old 02-10-2018, 08:13 PM   #6
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One 54 yo woman and a teenager. Weird thing is that all of the garage entry doors automatically close from this builder. Seems that door would have to have been proped open.

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Also weird that a carbon monoxide detector was not in a high end home.... accidents happen though. Sounds like a terrible loss for their family.
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Old 02-10-2018, 08:26 PM   #7
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The double homicide is a little troubling. What’s the story behind that?
18 year old stabbed in the shower. Neighbor was alerted and shot perp as he was exiting home.

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Also weird that a carbon monoxide detector was not in a high end home.... accidents happen though. Sounds like a terrible loss for their family.
This is def an issue. We actually did not know we did not have them until our alarm install. I added one at that time but ordered enough dual fire/Co2 detectors to replace everyone in the house today.

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Old 02-10-2018, 09:13 PM   #9
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Any of them have connections to the Clintons?
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:23 PM   #10
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Interesting happenings goings on there that’s for sure. I wouldnt jump on the move train right away. Put in some open record requests for the cases you know about and see if anything stands out. If not just some terrible coincidences it seems.


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Old 02-10-2018, 09:37 PM   #11
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I was told a few years ago by an old boy in Louisianna, "if anyone ever needs to commit murder, this is the place to do it". When I asked why, he said with a straight face..."Ol _____ _______ committed suicide last month." When I asked why that had anything to do with murder, he said "Apparrently he shot himself twice in the head with a .44 Magnum....suicide."



Strange things go on still....
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:37 PM   #12
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It has been tuff. My son went to hs with the 18yo. Seems that one may have been drug or girl related. Now this new one is two streets over and looks like my daughter may know the juvenile. We are praying that the family finds peace. Just seems like a lot of crazy stuff for such a small amount of houses surrounded by thousands without issue.

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Old 02-10-2018, 09:40 PM   #13
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Nope but we are in a mid range hood, seemingly degrading to a low end range hood. I hope your situation turns for the bester
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:41 PM   #14
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It is crazy, Google 'Tomball double homicide' the first several hits are today further down is from a few years ago. All within the gates less than .5 miles from us.

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To make things just a bit muddier. The HOA just sent out an email saying cause of death is unknown for both victims. After reports all day of carbon monoxide poisoning.

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Old 02-10-2018, 10:10 PM   #16
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Sounds like that Tom Hanks’ movie “The ‘Burbs”.
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:30 PM   #17
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We're the latest two suicide or old folks who forgot to shut the car off?
Does seem odd to have that many in one neighborhood but it would not make me move
This. I'd be like Lieutenant Dam in the storm!
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:52 PM   #18
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That area along Faulkey Gully was settled by freed slaves after the Civil War and known as "The Bottoms". The only thing left of the settlement was the cemetery that was still there in the early 70's. Developers probably built on top of it.
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:18 PM   #19
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Northpointe is a big neighborhood just off a relatively major highway. I wouldn't be too worried
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:30 PM   #20
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That area along Faulkey Gully was settled by freed slaves after the Civil War and known as "The Bottoms". The only thing left of the settlement was the cemetery that was still there in the early 70's. Developers probably built on top of it.
Are you f with me?

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Old 02-10-2018, 11:31 PM   #21
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News just said her car was running in the garage


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Old 02-10-2018, 11:34 PM   #22
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That area along Faulkey Gully was settled by freed slaves after the Civil War and known as "The Bottoms". The only thing left of the settlement was the cemetery that was still there in the early 70's. Developers probably built on top of it.
I am guessing you are screwing with me. Regardless our last home backed up to the gullet and that neighborhood never had any murders.

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That is what is weird. I heard the original sirens around 1030. The police indicated it would take 6 or more hours to consume the house.

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That is what is weird. I heard the original sirens around 1030. The police indicated it would take 6 or more hours to consume the house.

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All of these houses are two story and over 4k square feet. I am not an expert but it seems a running car in the garage is unlikely to kill two people, each on a separate floor. Unless the garage to internal door was forced open?

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Old 02-10-2018, 11:45 PM   #25
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Not trying to screw with you...I grew up just a few miles East of there. Not sure exactly where that cemetery was in relation to what's there now, but it was close. Probably all just coincidence about the murders and suicides.

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Old 02-10-2018, 11:47 PM   #26
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:53 PM   #27
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That area along Faulkey Gully was settled by freed slaves after the Civil War and known as "The Bottoms". The only thing left of the settlement was the cemetery that was still there in the early 70's. Developers probably built on top of it.
Even if he is screwing with you I would do some research in your area, I have heard of some weird stuff going on in NM when I lived there where houses where build right on Indian burial grounds.
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:55 PM   #28
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:04 AM   #29
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Even if he is screwing with you I would do some research in your area, I have heard of some weird stuff going on in NM when I lived there where houses where build right on Indian burial grounds.
Lots of Indian artifacts were found in that area too. The stuff they dug up along Cypress Creek where the Compaq/HP Center is located was amazing. I would imagine the headwaters of Willow Creek there saw a lot of Indian activity too.

All that spooky stuff aside, I would believe that over prescribed antidepressants are more likely to blame for the murders and suicides. You know, the ones that come with a warning "may cause suicidal or violent thoughts".
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:12 AM   #30
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Not trying to screw with you...I grew up just a few miles East of there. Not sure exactly where that cemetery was in relation to what's there now, but it was close. Probably all just coincidence about the murders and suicides.

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/rbf16
Man, does anyone know what the lake used to be called? From that map we are in the non surveyed area.

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Lots of Indian artifacts were found in that area too. The stuff they dug up along Cypress Creek where the Compaq/HP Center is located was amazing. I would imagine the headwaters of Willow Creek there saw a lot of Indian activity too.

All that spooky stuff aside, I would believe that over prescribed antidepressants are more likely to blame for the murders and suicides. You know, the ones that come with a warning "may cause suicidal or violent thoughts".
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Man, does anyone know what the lake used to be called? From that map we are in the non surveyed area.

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I don't think it had a name, just another of many prairie potholes that used to be covered in ducks back in the 70's. Back when 249 was a 2 lane road (FM 149) most of that land was prairie and cornfields. In December it held geese as far as you could see.

Some old maps that show it here:

https://www.historicaerials.com/
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Lots of Indian artifacts were found in that area too. The stuff they dug up along Cypress Creek where the Compaq/HP Center is located was amazing. I would imagine the headwaters of Willow Creek there saw a lot of Indian activity too.

All that spooky stuff aside, I would believe that over prescribed antidepressants are more likely to blame for the murders and suicides. You know, the ones that come with a warning "may cause suicidal or violent thoughts".
Everything aside, I agree with you that this is just coincidence. My wife, not so convinced. Evil lives around all of us at all times. It flourishes were good men do nothing. I thank you for the history that I will not be showing my wife! The page you linked too is news to me. I really do appreciate it.

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I don't think it had a name, just another of many prairie potholes that used to be covered in ducks back in the 70's. Back when 249 was a 2 lane road (FM 149) most of that land was prairie and cornfields. In December it held geese as far as you could see.

Some old maps that show it here:

https://www.historicaerials.com/
Thanks, I grew up between jones and perry on louedd. Back then we had 10 lots and an airstrip before tallowood and woodege were even a thought.

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Old 02-11-2018, 12:37 AM   #35
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Thanks, I grew up between jones and perry on louedd. Back then we had 10 lots and an airstrip before tallowood and woodege were even a thought.

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You're most welcome. Hard to believe how that whole area has changed in the past 30 years. Glad I got to see it as it was.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:39 AM   #36
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Since it appears that we can take one killer off the table since the methods are changing and the killer was shot dead, we are basically left with paranormal activity or a curse...

So....no, don't sell your house.

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You're most welcome. Hard to believe how that whole area has changed in the past 30 years. Glad I got to see it as it was.
I agree, my grandfather used to take my dad and uncle up from that grass strip to skydive over the cow fields that are now neighborhoods. We still own 4 acres over there. Times have changed.

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Old 02-11-2018, 01:01 AM   #39
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I once read that most people die in their homes or within 5 miles of it.

That's why I moved. Can't be too careful these days.
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If you all are living on top of a cemetery that would explain everything
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I will start by saying that we live in a higher end gated neighborhood. Some of you live very close. In the last 4 years we have had a double homicide, followed by a neighbor dying at night with no clear cause (36 yo) and today two dead from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning - evidently from a running car in the garage. My wife is ready to move thinking this place has bad ju ju. I am actually feeling she may be right. We lived in an adjacent neighborhood for 8 years, no crazy stuff going on. I have to think our little gated section is ranking off the charts at this point. Any crazy stuff in y'alls hoods like this?

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A few years ago we lived in a little neighborhood and a little old lady next door named Jean passed away. Apparently she was deceased for about 3 days before her kids found her. I had a gut feeling something wasn’t right, but we had only been there a few months.

Fast forward a year and we bought a new house. Our next door neighbors name is Jean and our neighbor across the streets name is Jean! I told my wife I didn’t like the sound of that. We got to know outlet neighbors after we got settled in over the next few months and we had mentioned Ms Jean from our previous neighborhood jokingly. I’ll be ****ed, Mrs. Jean across the street passed away back in the spring last year. Her husband followed a few months later. Now we have Ms Jean next door left. I told my wife we needed to get out of here before something happens to her and will be checking names of neighbors before purchasing another home!

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My next door neighbor sucked down 14 bottles of prescription medications. Other neighbor died in his sleep (50 years old)


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I will start by saying that we live in a higher end gated neighborhood. Some of you live very close. In the last 4 years we have had a double homicide, followed by a neighbor dying at night with no clear cause (36 yo) and today two dead from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning - evidently from a running car in the garage. My wife is ready to move thinking this place has bad ju ju. I am actually feeling she may be right. We lived in an adjacent neighborhood for 8 years, no crazy stuff going on. I have to think our little gated section is ranking off the charts at this point. Any crazy stuff in y'alls hoods like this?

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Yawn....

Buy a house in a neighborhood that was built in 1950. Almost everyone we knew 15 years ago is gone. Even their 50 and 60 year old kids have passed. The sibling that got the money from the sale of this house died 7 years ago.

Drive by shootings - kidnappings - home invasions - etc - are a problem.
Folks passing is normal.
Three houses west of us had a baby a year back. She is a cutie and the future of our hood......
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:12 AM   #44
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I have often thought the same about my area, especially as it relates to the number of deaths of young people for such a small population (some of which were quite strange). I have some opinions on why that are likely not advisable in public, but the thought that the area could be "cursed" or have "bad ju ju" as you say has also crossed my mind. I wonder if any of the other Tarkington TBHers have thought this?
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:13 AM   #45
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I live in Porter where it’s safe. The only thing people are going to die of in this neighborhood is stupidity.

The Nextdoor app lets me know just how stupid people are.


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Old 02-11-2018, 09:14 AM   #46
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That area along Faulkey Gully was settled by freed slaves after the Civil War and known as "The Bottoms". The only thing left of the settlement was the cemetery that was still there in the early 70's. Developers probably built on top of it.
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Not trying to screw with you...I grew up just a few miles East of there. Not sure exactly where that cemetery was in relation to what's there now, but it was close. Probably all just coincidence about the murders and suicides.

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/rbf16
If you believe that an area can have "bad ju ju", I think you would also believe that this could be a good reason.
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:23 AM   #47
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I once read that most people die in their homes or within 5 miles of it.

That's why I moved. Can't be too careful these days.
lol I was waiting for you to chime in on this one.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:56 AM   #48
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I will start by saying that we live in a higher end gated neighborhood. Some of you live very close. In the last 4 years we have had a double homicide, followed by a neighbor dying at night with no clear cause (36 yo) and today two dead from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning - evidently from a running car in the garage. My wife is ready to move thinking this place has bad ju ju. I am actually feeling she may be right. We lived in an adjacent neighborhood for 8 years, no crazy stuff going on. I have to think our little gated section is ranking off the charts at this point. Any crazy stuff in y'alls hoods like this?

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18 year old stabbed in the shower. Neighbor was alerted and shot perp as he was exiting home.

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I was on that one.

There is no need to move. I also know the family who owned all the land your hood and the school was on. They owned it for a long time. Never a mention about a cemetery

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Old 02-11-2018, 12:03 PM   #49
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One. The answer is one. That's way too many. I don't even like a death that isn't questionable.

Hell I don't even like that room in a funeral home that has all them caskets in it. Death is a no go for me. You need to move ASAP.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:04 PM   #50
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Stay positive, maybe it’s not the neighborhood itself. Maybe it’s a serial killer targeting residents of the neighborhood. Feel better?
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