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Old 05-31-2019, 01:34 PM   #1
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WOW some lucky guys there.
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:37 PM   #2
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Holy **** …. They sure were lucky
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:41 PM   #3
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Wow - they hit the water hard! Pretty ballsy move for that dude who jumped aboard at 30mph
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:43 PM   #4
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Wow! That jump back on the boat was crazy!
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:46 PM   #5
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Saw that a little while ago....absolutely crazy. Kudos to the guys in the other boat for getting it under control.
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:48 PM   #6
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That idiot has no business operating a boat.



Why did the motor trim down by itself after a while?
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:48 PM   #7
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Wow, looks like the guy who jumped in is the original driver. Minus his shades and dignity
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:50 PM   #8
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Wow, looks like the guy who jumped in is the original driver
Yep! He was like inches away from missing when he jumped and would have went leg first right into the prop. Idiot in many ways.
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:51 PM   #9
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Wow! That jump back on the boat was crazy!
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:52 PM   #10
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That idiot has no business operating a boat.



Why did the motor trim down by itself after a while?
That's what it looked like. Motor went down and boat went on plane.
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:53 PM   #11
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:54 PM   #12
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The g force on the video is a pretty awesome recording too. Showed 2.9g ish right when passenger was launched. Lucky guys for sure.


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Old 05-31-2019, 02:03 PM   #13
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Crazy video..... Those two guys are so lucky that the boat did not run them over right after they fell out.

I guess the driver never saw that no wake maker until the very end?

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Old 05-31-2019, 02:05 PM   #14
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Constant partial attention.
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Old 05-31-2019, 02:22 PM   #15
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Crazy video..... Those two guys are so lucky that the boat did not run them over right after they fell out.

I guess the driver never saw that no wake maker until the very end?

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He didn't know **** that wasn't on that GPS. I'd guess close to 1/2 the guys on the water in these big, high powered bass boats, have no business operating them.
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Old 05-31-2019, 02:37 PM   #16
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They were lucky. Is there really a need to go 60 mph?
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Old 05-31-2019, 02:50 PM   #17
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Lucky SOBs
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Old 05-31-2019, 02:51 PM   #18
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Why did the motor trim down by itself after a while?
This is a good question? I too wondered how it sped up but this makes sense now. That motor should've never trimmed down like it did. He was running the bouys on Toledo and just drifted too close to one and then when he adjusted the nose hooked on him.

I do agree there are a lot of new boat owners out there that have zero experience in driving a boat at higher speeds, and 60 is not high in my opinion. I would never run an aluminum rig at that speed but that's me. I will run my Triton at speeds higher than that all day, but then again, only in good conditions and with 30 years of seat time as well.

They were very lucky they didn't get run over.
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Old 05-31-2019, 03:08 PM   #19
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They were lucky. Is there really a need to go 60 mph?
Not for me, I'm fine in our big slow pontoon now days, but when I was 20ish or so and had a ski boat then yes, lol. My old 18ft skeeter would do 45-48 and that was plenty fast for me. If you've never skipped across the water after being ejected from a tube being pulled around 50 or so, it hurts, quite a bit.
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Old 05-31-2019, 03:20 PM   #20
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Not for me, I'm fine in our big slow pontoon now days, but when I was 20ish or so and had a ski boat then yes, lol. My old 18ft skeeter would do 45-48 and that was plenty fast for me. If you've never skipped across the water after being ejected from a tube being pulled around 50 or so, it hurts, quite a bit.
Amen!! And that was when I was in my 20's still! I remember being ejected from a tube and skidding arse first across the water and getting a lake enima!
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Old 05-31-2019, 03:30 PM   #21
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Something similar happened to a friend of mine and lost his arm if it would have been got a nurse fishing near him and was able to stop the bleeding he would have died.
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Old 05-31-2019, 05:48 PM   #22
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Wow! The jump back Good Lord!
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Old 06-01-2019, 02:49 PM   #23
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Same guy that was driving was the one that jumped back on the boat. The story states neither was wearing life vest, but doesn’t the father have one on that fills when it hits water or you pull the cord? They are very lucky and probably had to clean their shorts after that ride.
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Old 06-01-2019, 03:52 PM   #24
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56 ain't squat in a bass boat. I fished with a guy who's gambler would run 80. But too much for those types of turns he was attempting with so little boat in the water.

I noticed the consoles had no windscreens which guys usually did to gain a few mph. I wouldn't assume they where inexperienced boaters. Just average weekend warriors tournament guys trying to be KVD.

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Old 06-02-2019, 10:12 AM   #25
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Same guy that was driving was the one that jumped back on the boat. The story states neither was wearing life vest, but doesnít the father have one on that fills when it hits water or you pull the cord? They are very lucky and probably had to clean their shorts after that ride.


They both had one on that inflated, I donít understand why reporters or writers canít do their homework before they submit articles, especially since the original driver was the one who jumped back on the boat


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Old 06-02-2019, 11:22 AM   #26
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So many things wrong with this scenario... The industry has created a problem with these boars.. It really is amazing that more people don't die like this. I've seen Bass boats and Bay boats going so fast that the last 5 feet of the hull and lower unit are the only thing touching the water.. The need for speed while in fishing boats has reached a ridiculous level.. NO 24-25' fishing boat should ever be rated for a 300HP..

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Old 06-04-2019, 10:42 AM   #27
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The industry has created a problem with these boats. NO 24-25' fishing boat should ever be rated for a 300HP..
I agree with you on this for sure. It's grown from the 200 class, to the 225 class and now you're not in the "tournament class" if you don't have a 250. All marketing and driving the prices up.

In all actuality, most bass boats over 20' is now unlimited. Most manufacturers are putting a 250 decal to keep some parity in the business. What has happened is the boats have shrunk a bit and been widened up. It used to be everyone wanted a 21' rig but most now are 20' 6-11". I know several guys that are within compliance running 300 motors on bass boats less than 21'. I believe the all the new SCB 22' boats are rated at 300hp now.
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Old 06-04-2019, 11:05 AM   #28
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I went back and showed my son and his buddy this video after work Friday. After it finished playing, another video came up. It was a single fisherman, no life jacket and no kill switch attached that got thrown out of his boat. A dad and son fishing in the distance caught the accident on there gopro's and sped over to help. The old boy that got thrown out was totally wore out from treading water when they eased up to pick him up, almost having to lift him to get him in there boat before the unmanned boat ran into them. It was a miracle that 1, that his boat did not track back over the top of him, and 2, the dad and son was close enough to get to him before he wore down or cramped up.

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Old 06-04-2019, 11:16 AM   #29
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Sit down at the helm, attach kill switch lanyard then start the motor.

It really isn't that hard to do or to remember to do.

The boat that brought the driver back could have gotten much closer to the unmanned boat to make entry a lot more safer.
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Old 06-04-2019, 11:26 AM   #30
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Good reminder, I am bad about not hooking up to the kill switch.
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Old 06-04-2019, 11:47 AM   #31
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Passenger looked scared the entire time in the boat. The motor trimming on its own doesn't make sense. Glad they lived and no one else was injured.
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Old 06-04-2019, 11:56 AM   #32
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Super turn out for what could have been a bad situation.

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The boat that brought the driver back could have gotten much closer to the unmanned boat to make entry a lot more safer.
Armchair quarterbacking is the best, ain't it?
Also, those wide angle lenses make things look farther than they are.

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Old 06-04-2019, 12:00 PM   #33
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That idiot has no business operating a boat.



Why did the motor trim down by itself after a while?
That's a bold statement unless you have more info than the rest of us. Did the steering cable break? Did he hit a stump? Even the best Boaters/Anglers can get complacent and have a accident. Not that I care one way or the other but its a good reminder to wear your kill switch.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:26 PM   #34
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Trim might have suffered some damage after hitting something and maybe leaked down.

Always wear the kill switch, really bothers me seeing people who don't. It's not only their lives at risk it puts everyone else at risk. Absolutely horrifying seeing the guys floating in the water next to the boat circling like that.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:44 PM   #35
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Always wear the kill switch and your life jacket, really bothers me seeing people who don't. It's not only their lives at risk it puts everyone else at risk. Absolutely horrifying seeing the guys floating in the water next to the boat circling like that.
FIFY, My pet peeve is seeing these guys posting pictures of their young kids or infants, sometimes relative's kids sitting on their lap driving the boat. That's ok with me, what's not ok is the fact neither adult has a PFD on in the boat, the kid does but they do not.

I have a FB friend that does it all the time with his 2-3 year old nephew, wind in the hair makes for a great photo opp. Since he's a semi-pro staffer I guess it makes it ok in his eyes.
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:44 PM   #36
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Old 06-04-2019, 12:48 PM   #37
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How did the boat speed up from 10 to 30 when the motor trimmed down ? Surely he has a hot foot . And your boat slows down when your motor is trimmed down .
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:04 PM   #38
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Looking at that video, it looks to be an older (possibly Champion) bass boat that has been restored and repowered. The consoles look to be late 80's or early 90's and wrapped in carbon fiber wrap and the seats say "Dixie Chopper" on them and not to mention the newer 250 Yamaha SHO.

The boat was running 63, according to the on screen speed and the lake conditions looked to be safe to run that speed. The passenger was trying to help navigate and I didn't see anything he did that would make me think he was a DA. The driver wasn't speeding past a lot of other boat traffic and was looking for the next buoy and (looked to be) checking his path on his electronics when he got a little too close to the buoy. During his correction, he probably lifted off the hot foot throttle, slowing the boat causing the bow to drop, the bow hooked and spun them out throwing the passenger (still not being a DA) into the driver. Accidents happen and we just saw one on video.
I am glad they are still alive to share the video so others will think about how quickly things can go wrong and wear their kill switches and life jackets.

What I can't figure out is why the boat sped back up to ~30 mph. With a hot foot (assuming it had one because it slowed down so much and didn't go back to 60+ after they were thrown out) it should have continued at idle speed. The boat ran in circles at 9-10 mph for a minute and 11 seconds when it took off.
...after watching it to figure that out, I don't think there is a hot foot in that boat. After jumping back on board, he slowed the boat with the hand throttle. Now, I think the motor went into a safe mode due to the sudden high RPMs and then came back alive at the position that it was knocked to when the driver came out of the boat.

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Old 06-04-2019, 01:05 PM   #39
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Error#1. Screwing with the GPS rather than looking where he was going. #2. If you aren't familiar with the water enough that you don't need a GPS then slow the hell down. That lake is known for educating the naive. #3. Kill switch. Duh! Almost always a series of errors that lead to these accidents.
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How did the boat speed up from 10 to 30 when the motor trimmed down ? Surely he has a hot foot . And your boat slows down when your motor is trimmed down .
It only speeds down when you trim down if you're on plane. Apparently he didn't have a hot foot, and only knocked the throttle back 1/2 way or so when they went over the side. If you go from high throttle to 1/2 without trimming down it will cavitate and not run very efficiently, until it's trimmed down again. I'm guessing maybe the cavitation caused it to run hot, and the motor trimmed itself down as a precaution, but I don't know if that's actually a feature they have.
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:07 PM   #41
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That's a bold statement unless you have more info than the rest of us. Did the steering cable break? Did he hit a stump? Even the best Boaters/Anglers can get complacent and have a accident. Not that I care one way or the other but its a good reminder to wear your kill switch.
1. He's not familiar enough with where he's at to to run that fast.

2. He keeps letting go of the wheel and looking off to the side.

3. He's too busy looking at the idiot screen to watch where he's going.

4. He panics and takes a bunch of throttle out of it at the same time he turned, on pad, at speed, trimmed up.

The water looks fine to run 62 on if you know where you are and are in control of your boat. You can get a lot of feedback through the steering with that little boat in the water and you need to have both hands on the wheel actually hanging on.

If that boat is as old as it looks, it's likely not rated for a 250. It's definitely not designed to have that kind of steering input at that speed.

He's an idiot.

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Old 06-04-2019, 01:29 PM   #42
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Looking at that video, it looks to be an older (possibly Champion) bass boat that has been restored and repowered. The consoles look to be late 80's or early 90's and wrapped in carbon fiber wrap and the seats say "Dixie Chopper" on them and not to mention the newer 250 Yamaha SHO.

The boat was running 63, according to the on screen speed and the lake conditions looked to be safe to run that speed. The passenger was trying to help navigate and I didn't see anything he did that would make me think he was a DA. The driver wasn't speeding past a lot of other boat traffic and was looking for the next buoy and (looked to be) checking his path on his electronics when he got a little too close to the buoy. During his correction, he probably lifted off the hot foot throttle, slowing the boat causing the bow to drop, the bow hooked and spun them out throwing the passenger (still not being a DA) into the driver. Accidents happen and we just saw one on video.
I am glad they are still alive to share the video so others will think about how quickly things can go wrong and wear their kill switches and life jackets.

What I can't figure out is why the boat sped back up to ~30 mph. With a hot foot (assuming it had one because it slowed down so much and didn't go back to 60+ after they were thrown out) it should have continued at idle speed. The boat ran in circles at 9-10 mph for a minute and 11 seconds when it took off.
...after watching it to figure that out, I don't think there is a hot foot in that boat. After jumping back on board, he slowed the boat with the hand throttle. Now, I think the motor went into a safe mode due to the sudden high RPMs and then came back alive at the position that it was knocked to when the driver came out of the boat.

LIFE JACKETS, KILL SWITCHES AND HOT FOOTS!!!

You can see him throttle it down with his hand when he finally quits looking at the GPS......at the same time he yanks the wheel.
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:34 PM   #43
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Should have never come to needing the kill switch in that situation anyway. Do accidents happen? Yes, but he should not have been going that fast and not paying attention in front of him. I have absolutely no issue with boaters going 60+ but when you take your eyes off the lake and focus elsewhere you are putting yourself and other people at risk. I have been cut off more times on the lake by fishing boats playing on their gps than any other type of boat.
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:57 PM   #44
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It's definitely an aluminum rig, not a Champion. maybe older Express or a custom builder as there are several around here. The speed up has me puzzled as well. When he bumped it left, a chine hooked and the nose dove, bad deal all the way around.
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:58 PM   #45
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I wear mine religiously.... too easy not to do it...
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Old 06-04-2019, 02:12 PM   #46
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Man that’s scary.
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Old 06-04-2019, 02:13 PM   #47
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1. He's not familiar enough with where he's at to to run that fast.

2. He keeps letting go of the wheel and looking off to the side.

3. He's too busy looking at the idiot screen to watch where he's going.

4. He panics and takes a bunch of throttle out of it at the same time he turned, on pad, at speed, trimmed up.

The water looks fine to run 62 on if you know where you are and are in control of your boat. You can get a lot of feedback through the steering with that little boat in the water and you need to have both hands on the wheel actually hanging on.

If that boat is as old as it looks, it's likely not rated for a 250. It's definitely not designed to have that kind of steering input at that speed.

He's an idiot.
Not arguing that, odds are you are right. I usually assume everyone is an Idiot until they prove otherwise.
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Old 06-04-2019, 02:13 PM   #48
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Old 06-04-2019, 09:37 PM   #49
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I have a small jon with a small outboard. It hauls tail with just me in it, sitting at the back my hand on it. 1970 Johnson Seahorse. Plan to rig a switch this summer. Going to be easy to do. Just a good idea no matter what, especially solo fishing.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:08 AM   #50
Chance Love
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Why is it that I ALWAYS remember to wear my kill switch, but ALWAYS forget to take it off???
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