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Old 08-29-2019, 05:57 AM   #1
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Why is he rolling back methane gas regulations when the energy industry itself is saying they need to have these regulations in place????

If a American Medical Association is telling you that you need to keep certain regulations in place to ward off shoddy surgeons would you still go ahead and remove those regulations???

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"More than 60 oil and gas companies have made voluntary commitments to pare emissions of methane, the chief ingredient of natural gas, though some of them insist federal regulation is still essential for the highly fragmented industry. For instance, BP Plc and Royal Dutch Shell Plc executives said in March that they favor federal regulation of the oil industry’s methane emissions, with BP asserting in an opinion piece that voluntary actions by a handful of companies “are not enough to solve the problem.”
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Calm down there buddy and don't worry the left will have something else for you to worry about by tomorrow.

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Old 08-29-2019, 06:26 AM   #3
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LMAO! Sounds like a Snowflake.
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LMAO! Sounds like a Snowflake.
https://youtu.be/UFatVn1hP3o

A cucking snowflake
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If BP is quoted on anything, safety or health related; you can rest assured that it is purely posturing for the media.

Those are the same idiots that blew up their rig in the gulf (cutting corners on safety), and how many times have they had nasty accidents at their Texas City refinery (too cheap to make upgrades) Several of which have cost lives?

I don't trust them at all.
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Because he's racist and wanting to genocide an entire generation.

Their...you feel better now?
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:39 AM   #7
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A cuck & snowflake
Pretty sure I recently saw an article about EPA emissions being the lowest they have been in 67 years.
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On second thought I think we should all agree with him and then just close the thread.

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It doesn’t matter what Trump or anyone thinks. The oil majors support regulation ONLY because their (foreign) investors pressure them to drive down greenhouse gases and increase sustainability efforts. Regulation is the tool by which companies get to claim the advantage of reporting improvements to their investors while telling their boards of directors that the capex was a mandatory negative to the balance sheet. I’m all for a cleaner planet with more efficient use of natural resources, but until China and India join in, our efforts are futile.

The only reason domestic politics enters into the discussion is expediency.
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Increasing the regulatory burden is also an effective tool to keep smaller, more nimble competitors out of your industry.
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Old 08-29-2019, 02:09 PM   #11
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Increasing the regulatory burden is also an effective tool to keep smaller, more nimble competitors out of your industry.
In some industries, yes. In other industries increasing regulation is a forcing function for innovation in order to meet new standards. Smaller, more agile companies are sometimes able to innovate quicker than large corporations who are burdened by layers of bureaucracy
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How cleaner is our air and water now than before? How much more are we doing to continue to take care of earth than we did before?
For some its never enough until they control everything. And usually the ones complaining...are doing the least to contribute.
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LMAO! Sounds like a Snowflake.
You new here? He's the biggest snowflake we got.
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Old 08-29-2019, 04:28 PM   #15
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That is a very MSNBC thread title you selected there.

How on earth are we ever going to survive 5 1/2 more years of this maniac! He has to be stopped! For Christ sakes, he’s trying to accomplish the things he campaigned on that got him elected in the first place.



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How cleaner is our air and water now than before? How much more are we doing to continue to take care of earth than we did before?
For some its never enough until they control everything. And usually the ones complaining...are doing the least to contribute.
America in not even in the top 10 polluters on the planet. I can't see what the OP wrote about it but I'm sure it's a real winner
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America in not even in the top 10 polluters on the planet.
These clueless terds won't give up until Galvestons beaches are crystal clear blue water and white sand like they used to be before mean people made them dirty.


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These clueless terds won't give up until Galvestons beaches are crystal clear blue water and white sand like they used to be before mean people made them dirty.


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Meanwhile in China.................
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Meanwhile in China.................
India, Pakistan, Philippines, Indonesia, and Vietnam
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Why is he rolling back methane gas regulations when the energy industry itself is saying they need to have these regulations in place????
It's because he wants to release enough greenhouse gases so the oceans will rise. And flood Obama's new 15 million dollar oceanside compound. Trump is very vindictive.
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Still not over the election huh? Just get it all out Tfan we know it hurts but it will be ok...
We all still love you buddy!
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President Trump called this morning and wanted to know of he has pizzed off TF yet.
I emailed him back and told him I would check with the green screen.
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President Trump called this morning and wanted to know of he has pizzed off TF yet.
I emailed him back and told him I would check with the green screen.

Tell him nope, try harder!!
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Meanwhile in China.................
Meanwhile Vaping will kill more humans than Methane ever has or ever will(probably already has).... Oh wait..
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As usual he spews some libtard Bu!!***** and the runs and hide and just watches all the remarks he gets while sitting in his mothers spare bedroom naked on a bean bag pillow.
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As usual he spews some libtard Bu!!***** and the runs and hide and just watches all the remarks he gets while sitting in his mothers spare bedroom naked on a bean bag pillow.
LoL
So you all are ok with more methane being released into the atmosphere?
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So you all are ok with more methane being released into the atmosphere?
Yep, and I have no desire to ban cows due to them burping and farting.
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If you really want to decrease the amount of methane OP, I would boycott Taco Bell. Poop happens ya know.
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Is there any real data that increase methane is harmful?
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Is there any real data that increase methane is harmful?
no, but it's STINKY; so there.
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Methane been seeping out of the earth for billions of years. Pretty sure TF has been leaking more than his share too.
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Is there any real data that increase methane is harmful?
Yes.

http://https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/methane/
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But but but they never take into account the 60 million Buffalo that once roamed north America. I guess these buffalo didn't fart. Nor did all them pachyderms that died off or the millions of whales that were killed off. Now them whale farts are really stinky especially the ones that don't leave the bar until closing time. Maybe it's time to outlaw beer and burritos. I'm quite sure my dogs are responsible for most of this methane mess. They danged near kilt me again last night.
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Nope

Wetlands are the largest source of natural methane on the earth. Im assuming you relize most life revolves around clean water and air, wetlands. Wetlands protect us from floods and storm surges (see huricane Katrina and Sandy). And, with all the good things wetlands bring, we are bulldozing and filling them at a alarming rate. Some say we have less than %50 of what we had in 1900... sounds right anyways.

This is why I'm a conservationist and not an environmentalist. Reality versus, at best, theory. The answer to your question is absolutely, yes. We need more methane... from increased wetlands, for clean, healthy, happy lives
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Isn't methane one of the desired products that these evil gas compression facilities produce / store / transport / sell along with other NG bi-products be it liquids or gas forms...here I was thinking they were spending money to turn natural gas for profit in various forms??

Shoulda realized Trump needs the methane for his chem trail hook up to spew out of Air Force 1 due to his pure hatred of the environment...you can learn just about anything on this forum.

Well, at least we're saving the cows now...was a little worried about those gassy methane producers being a casualty of war on this new green deal, but Trump really needs them for his dirty air agenda & will still have his McDonalds fix. One less thing for him to worry about & can scratch the increased methane into the environment goal off the list.
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Also, environmentalist know that methane come from the environment. There's a push on their behalf to remove the methane producing natural resources (the earth) to save the earth.... see the craziness of environmentalism?

So, in honor of defeating the environmentalist, let's all go buy a duck stamp and see how much methane we can actually produce. Hooray!!!
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Wetlands are the largest source of natural methane on the earth. Im assuming you relize most life revolves around clean water and air, wetlands. Wetlands protect us from floods and storm surges (see huricane Katrina and Sandy). And, with all the good things wetlands bring, we are bulldozing and filling them at a alarming rate. Some say we have less than %50 of what we had in 1900... sounds right anyways.

This is why I'm a conservationist and not an environmentalist. Reality versus, at best, theory. The answer to your question is absolutely, yes. We need more methane... from increased wetlands, for clean, healthy, happy lives
Can you cite a source for your statement? The EPA states that 50%-65% of globally produced methane comes from human activities. And of that percentage 31% comes from fossil fuel (so conservatively 15% of the total). Methane is a greenhouse gas that has something like 30 times the warming potential of co2. So even if you can reduce the human production by something like 5% with workable regulations wouldn’t that be beneficial to reduce the onset and effect of global warming. Are you not concerned about protecting the planet for future generations?

http://https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissi...-gases#methane
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Can you cite a source for your statement? The EPA states that 50%-65% of globally produced methane comes from human activities. And of that percentage 31% comes from fossil fuel (so conservatively 15% of the total). Methane is a greenhouse gas that has something like 30 times the warming potential of co2. So even if you can reduce the human production by something like 5% with workable regulations wouldn’t that be beneficial to reduce the onset and effect of global warming. Are you not concerned about protecting the planet for future generations?

http://https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissi...-gases#methane
I'm not going to attempt to argue your numbers. They could be right, I honestly don't know. It's simply a difference in world views. I'm admittedly simple minded and I believe what I come to experience and know.

Yes a reduction in "man made" methane would be good but we can't even agree on what "man made" is. If I restore a drained wetland and it produces methane is that "man made"?

I see the world through a conservation view based on biblical truths (i.e. I believe God actually created the environment and gave man some simple tools and knowledge to manage it). Reduction of Methane and all green gasses will come with the advent of new technology and necessity. In the mean time, I promise if we turn our thoughts and concerns to the simplicity of clean water and air and protection of critical ecosystems the climate will fix itself, if there's anything to be fixed. And more resources to hunt and stick with bow and arrow, we all win. Huzzah friends!!!

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Can you cite a source for your statement? The EPA states that 50%-65% of globally produced methane comes from human activities. And of that percentage 31% comes from fossil fuel (so conservatively 15% of the total). Methane is a greenhouse gas that has something like 30 times the warming potential of co2. So even if you can reduce the human production by something like 5% with workable regulations wouldn’t that be beneficial to reduce the onset and effect of global warming. Are you not concerned about protecting the planet for future generations?

http://https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissi...-gases#methane
Man made climate change / warming is a scam to steal your money.
There is absolutly NO science to back up the claims the climate is changing by way of any human activity.
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If a mega corporation is saying anything then one things for sure....It somehow, someway equates to them making more money. Period

It takes a real special person to think BP cares about the environment over profits LOL
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Also, environmentalist know that methane come from the environment. There's a push on their behalf to remove the methane producing natural resources (the earth) to save the earth.... see the craziness of environmentalism?

So, in honor of defeating the environmentalist, let's all go buy a duck stamp and see how much methane we can actually produce. Hooray!!!
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Can you cite a source for your statement? The EPA states that 50%-65% of globally produced methane comes from human activities. And of that percentage 31% comes from fossil fuel (so conservatively 15% of the total). Methane is a greenhouse gas that has something like 30 times the warming potential of co2. So even if you can reduce the human production by something like 5% with workable regulations wouldn’t that be beneficial to reduce the onset and effect of global warming. Are you not concerned about protecting the planet for future generations?

http://https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissi...-gases#methane
Well if I go by the two posts above, the world is now producing about the same amount of methane it was in the 1800's. About 50% less now due to the loss of wetlands but about 50% more now due to humans.
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Well if I go by the two posts above, the world is now producing about the same amount of methane it was in the 1800's. About 50% less now due to the loss of wetlands but about 50% more now due to humans.
Maybe. I dont know you but believe your math and assumptions are just as likely as accurate as a "degreed environmental scientist". I dont think its a complicated issue and the solutions are the same as they have always been, common sense conservation at a 4th grade level.
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I think we should all get carbon credits for every piece of farting beef we eat or every beef you send to the slaughter house. We could all be rich in no time just like Al Gore. Of course we would all have to hold our own farts in until they are absorbed.
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I think we should all get carbon credits for every piece of farting beef we eat or every beef you send to the slaughter house. We could all be rich in no time just like Al Gore. Of course we would all have to hold our own farts in until they are absorbed.
Do you lose credits every time you eat at Taco Bell?
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