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    #16
    We recommend all of our members to outsource accepting credit card payments to companies like Touch Net, Verisign, Pay Pal, etc. because it is so cost prohibitive to comply with the PCIDSS. Also, if there is a breech they are the ones who become liable.

    A few other things:
    The hackers could have broke into a transmission line from the source to the cc processor, at the cc processor's system, or the transmission from the processor to the banks.

    A company does not have to store any of the card numbers for them to be stolen from a system. They only have to pass through the system. Outsourcing will prevent the numbers from going through a company's information system, the company will never even see the numbers.

    If the credit card is physically swiped on the card reader, and the card reader is connected directly to the bank (you will hear the computer tones), there is much less risk of theft than taking a card number over the phone.

    The database/ credit card application must encrypt the data and access to the application must be restricted to authorized users who have passwords. to be PCIDSS compliant. Any transmission of credit card information must be encrypted, too.

    This is some serious stuff and someone better sit up and pay attention rather than brushing off the PCIDSS and the advice from information security specialists. Just because someone can set up a web site and knows information technology doesn't mean they understand security.

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      #17
      Oh yeah - lots of banks are increasing fees to companies who cannot prove they have a PCIDSS operating plan in place. For example, one company I know of used to ask "would you like to pay for that with the card you have on file with us?" The bank told the owner, if you don't process / swipe each transaction with the physical card, the fees will be 10 times greater. Guess what - he doesn't store CC anymore.

      (and Jimmy - I knew that was you over at ASA. I'm sorry I didn't state the wording was pirated from you. )

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        #18
        Originally posted by Dusty Britches View Post
        We recommend all of our members to outsource accepting credit card payments to companies like Touch Net, Verisign, Pay Pal, etc. because it is so cost prohibitive to comply with the PCIDSS. Also, if there is a breech they are the ones who become liable.

        A few other things:
        The hackers could have broke into a transmission line from the source to the cc processor, at the cc processor's system, or the transmission from the processor to the banks.

        A company does not have to store any of the card numbers for them to be stolen from a system. They only have to pass through the system. Outsourcing will prevent the numbers from going through a company's information system, the company will never even see the numbers.

        If the credit card is physically swiped on the card reader, and the card reader is connected directly to the bank (you will hear the computer tones), there is much less risk of theft than taking a card number over the phone.

        The database/ credit card application must encrypt the data and access to the application must be restricted to authorized users who have passwords. to be PCIDSS compliant. Any transmission of credit card information must be encrypted, too.

        This is some serious stuff and someone better sit up and pay attention rather than brushing off the PCIDSS and the advice from information security specialists. Just because someone can set up a web site and knows information technology doesn't mean they understand security.

        Yep

        Makes ya wonder if someone over there is working on their resume this week.

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          #19
          I was lucky, Visa caught mine after 3 internet transactions and killed the card. Would love to know location of culprit.

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            #20
            Originally posted by old killer View Post
            I was lucky, Visa caught mine after 3 internet transactions and killed the card. Would love to know location of culprit.
            They're kind...everywhere. Some of the stories as to who got took for what are mind boggling.

            One guy...$2700 towards a down payment on a new motorcycle.

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              #21
              Thanks for the heads up

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