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Old 05-16-2018, 05:28 PM   #1
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Default variable scopes...

Just reading a portion of Jack O'Connor's book, The Hunting Rifle, where he's talking about variable scopes and how seldom that most people use the variability on them. I never really thought about it but I've mostly owned variable scopes on my rifles. And yes, mine usually stay on 6 or 7X. Use binos for everything else.
How about y'all?
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:30 PM   #2
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Same here.
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:31 PM   #3
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Low power for walking around/still hunting and max zoom for stand hunting
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:32 PM   #4
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4x 99% of the time, but adjust it to whatever power I want when I get to a blind
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:48 PM   #5
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I tend to use the variable zoom a lot. Most of the time my hunting scopes, which are normally 3-9 or 4-12, stay on the lowest setting. There are 2 reasons for this. First is if I were to have an animal Unintentionally stand up at close range while stalking another I am at the lowest zoom making it easier to quickly get a good sight picture and possible make a shot. The other reason is once you glass up an animal it makes it easier to transition to rifle scope and find the animal. Once you find the animal in the sight picture you can zoom into your desired level. When shooting long range targets I will also use variable zooms to help gauge wind. Find target and range with recital at desired zoom, or require zoom if it is a second focal plain scope, then back off the zoom half way to better see the mirage to gauge wind down range. Variable zoom levels are one of the most under utilized tools shooters use that could make life a lot easier.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:16 PM   #6
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I use it all the time.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:43 PM   #7
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Low power for walking around/still hunting and max zoom for stand hunting
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:26 PM   #8
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I use it quite a bit.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:00 PM   #9
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Jack would change his mind with today's scopes!! It voids the whole need for anyone even needing a spotting scope.

I love them...zoom it in to confirm age concerns / look for little kickers / detail the antlers at most any distance / etc. Outstanding tool & would rather have quality glass on a marginal rifle vs the counter.

Heck, I'm switching VX-6's on my 280AI this year...going from 3-18 to a 4-24.

The main thing is to remember to turn it back down when you are done checking. I've missed a yote or two at close range with the power setting not being backed down to the 6x area.

10x EL's for binos & long stretch viewing for eye strain.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:21 PM   #10
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I use mine all the time. Most of the time my scopes are sitting at lowest setting until shot opportunity arises. If I have time I zoom it in if not shoot at 4x most shots are at 4x or less on predators and on everything else maxed out


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Old 05-16-2018, 10:55 PM   #11
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Jack would change his mind with today's scopes!! It voids the whole need for anyone even needing a spotting scope.

I love them...zoom it in to confirm age concerns / look for little kickers / detail the antlers at most any distance / etc. Outstanding tool & would rather have quality glass on a marginal rifle vs the counter.

Heck, I'm switching VX-6's on my 280AI this year...going from 3-18 to a 4-24.

The main thing is to remember to turn it back down when you are done checking. I've missed a yote or two at close range with the power setting not being backed down to the 6x area.

10x EL's for binos & long stretch viewing for eye strain.
So youíre aiming your rifle at something youíre not sure you want to shoot?
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:17 PM   #12
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So youíre aiming your rifle at something youíre not sure you want to shoot?
lol...all the time if hunting. EVEN at doves with a shotgun!! Don't choke on that one!! How do I know I don't want to shoot it till I'm certain?? Glad you are not in charge of any LE training.

"No pointing till you are 100% certain"??

I guess the thread about scope power is now going to turn into superior safety ethics?? Please friend, lighten up.

I keep a round in the chamber, bolt up & safety on when in the blind...I'm most certain any of my Jewell triggers are way lighter than you will ever use. I've lost culls cycling the bolt & think I have a clear understanding of stealth. I also point at all sorts migratory game, upland birds, quail, yotes, jackrabbits, hogs, etc. with a loaded chamber not certain if I'm going to shoot. Where are you taking me??

But, please do go on how this is so wrong as I'm most positive I'm the only TBH member doing this.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:44 PM   #13
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I also use it all the time. Predator hunting I keep it backed way out so I get a full field of view a lot of the times once a predator stops I’m able to hammer down on the magnification and pick my spot
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:53 PM   #14
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Low power for walking around/still hunting and max zoom for stand hunting
This.

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Old 05-17-2018, 12:15 AM   #15
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So youíre aiming your rifle at something youíre not sure you want to shoot?


Every time I hunt. Spring time before the antlers start to grow I may not even bring a pair of binos or I donít take them out of my hunting bag and just use my scope.


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Old 05-17-2018, 10:48 AM   #16
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I target shoot more than hunt so use the max power more often but like the ability to lower the power for hunting.

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Old 05-17-2018, 11:23 AM   #17
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I adjust mine constantly depending on the situation. I dial is down when I'm stalking or when my kids are using it and up for long shots.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:37 AM   #18
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Really? You have never pointed your rifle pistol shotgun or anything at something you may or may not have intended to shoot while hunting? Hell you ever been duck hunting or pheasant hunting? That is the name of the game. You keep your chamber empty while ccw as well dont you following that same line of thought.


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Old 05-17-2018, 11:42 AM   #19
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Rarely adjust mine, never when hunting, usually on 6-8. I've put lace-on combs on most of my rifles so that they fit me good. Put a Leupi 10X on my 700 in 308 and Love It.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:08 PM   #20
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Don’t hunt without a variable scope on all my bolt guns. They all stay on lowest power to initially find target then adjust to desired zoom when it comes time to evaluate and pull the trigger.

3x-9x here in Texas for brush and hill country. Wide open longer shots nothing less than 4x-12x on those rifles, and even a 6.5x-20x on my 7mm. Love that scope, almost gets rid of the need for a spotting scope!
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:10 PM   #21
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Really? You have never pointed your rifle pistol shotgun or anything at something you may or may not have intended to shoot while hunting? Hell you ever been duck hunting or pheasant hunting? That is the name of the game. You keep your chamber empty while ccw as well dont you following that same line of thought.


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Yep. Never know when that thing is just gonna go off and shoot of a kneecap.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:31 PM   #22
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Donít hunt without a variable scope on all my bolt guns. They all stay on lowest power to initially find target then adjust to desired zoom when it comes time to evaluate and pull the trigger.

3x-9x here in Texas for brush and hill country. Wide open longer shots nothing less than 4x-12x on those rifles, and even a 6.5x-20x on my 7mm. Love that scope, almost gets rid of the need for a spotting scope!

Would love to get a 4-12X on my Varmint .243 but also a fixed 6X on my .270
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:38 PM   #23
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??? Use it all the time... keep it low to make sure i find it and then zoom in. Also keep it low running round the ranch never know when you'll jump a pig... i use the binos to scan but use the variable power all the time too
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So youíre aiming your rifle at something youíre not sure you want to shoot?
This is ignorant... your a liar if you say you have never used scope in low light to verify somthing under feeder or if that shadow is a pig or a juniper bush... but saftey on and finger off trigger...
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Old 05-18-2018, 04:56 PM   #25
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This is ignorant... your a liar if you say you have never used scope in low light to verify somthing under feeder or if that shadow is a pig or a juniper bush... but saftey on and finger off trigger...
I have binoculars for that.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:07 PM   #26
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In all honesty it was a joke. Itís even funnier now that yíall got your panties in a wad
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:28 PM   #27
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In all honesty it was a joke. Itís even funnier now that yíall got your panties in a wad


I knew it was a joke after your 2nd post but.......,

You do bring up a good point about the 4 rules.


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Old 05-18-2018, 05:46 PM   #28
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Elmer Keith said Jack O'connor was a horses azz. If your old enough to remember, Elmer could not stand Jack and always made comments about him in his writings.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:49 PM   #29
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I am like some you fellers and put my scope on low power for walking and stalking, and mid to high power for stand hunting. When I am shooting targets at the bench, I usually dont set up on high power because of the mirage.
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:38 PM   #30
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Jack would change his mind with today's scopes!! It voids the whole need for anyone even needing a spotting scope.

I love them...zoom it in to confirm age concerns / look for little kickers / detail the antlers at most any distance / etc. Outstanding tool & would rather have quality glass on a marginal rifle vs the counter.

Heck, I'm switching VX-6's on my 280AI this year...going from 3-18 to a 4-24.

The main thing is to remember to turn it back down when you are done checking. I've missed a yote or two at close range with the power setting not being backed down to the 6x area.

10x EL's for binos & long stretch viewing for eye strain.
Bingo. I think ole Jack would have a different feeling if he hunted today.

Or perhaps he would still be hunting with a 270 and a 6x weaver.

One of the greatest advancements we've seen is the recent increase in optics quality. Take advantage of it if you have it.
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It went over my head too...may wanna try a smiley for us slower folks next time.
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Old 05-24-2018, 02:07 PM   #32
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Or perhaps he would still be hunting with a 270 and a 6x weaver.
And nothing wrong with that on my part. Not much out there in the US that it couldn't handle. I don't find the need for 300-600 yards shots either, or further, that several folks on here brag about. Just saying...
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lol wut
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You do bring up a good point about the 4 rules.
Not really.

1. Always treat every firearm as though it is loaded.
2. Always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
3. Keep your finger outside the trigger guard until ready to shoot.
4. Always be sure of your target and what is in front of it and behind it.

even by NRA:

1. The Gun Is Always Loaded
2. Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To Destroy
3. Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
4. Keep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until

aiming at a game animal that is a hunting target is not a violation of any rule or principle of gun safety... the troll just got his bait bit. Gloating about it adds a touch of class.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:32 PM   #35
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Not really.

1. Always treat every firearm as though it is loaded.
2. Always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
3. Keep your finger outside the trigger guard until ready to shoot.
4. Always be sure of your target and what is in front of it and behind it.

even by NRA:

1. The Gun Is Always Loaded
2. Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To Destroy
3. Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
4. Keep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until

aiming at a game animal that is a hunting target is not a violation of any rule or principle of gun safety... the troll just got his bait bit. Gloating about it adds a touch of class.
According to Example 1, rules 1, 2, and potentially 4 are being broken. According to the NRA, rule number 2 seems especially shattered, assuming you don’t care if you shoot a calf, kid, or lamb. Those rules don’t apply to experienced riflemen such as me.

Hell, on second thought, I look through the scope on my Remington 700 varmint rifle to check ear tags on cows, license plate numbers on passing vehicles, and bird watching in the local park. You needn’t worry though; it’s on Safe.

Hurl a golf ball into a dark room, and tell me who yells....

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Old 05-27-2018, 11:10 AM   #36
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Snipers used fixed 10x. Cowboys used iron sights. Etc etc. welcome to 2018. We have options to extend a shooters range in many ways. Pretty much all my optics are 3-18 or 4-16 FFP. I have the ability to crank them up. I keep most of them on a very low power for fast running shots or up close shots. I crank them up to stretch them out. Same gun I’ve shot to 1800 with has made kills well under 100. I try to not limit myself. “It’s too far to see” won’t be said. Get closer if you don’t want to shoot that far but at least you get a good look at what you’re about to spend time stalking. I don’t care what anyone used 50+ years ago. Buy the equipment that puts success more in your favor. That animal will look the same on the wall and in the freezer whether you used irons or an S&B.
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I almost always keep my scopes on the lowest power until I need to crank it up. Some other times on lower powered scopes, 2-7x, for example, I will leave it on 4X if I have a potential of a 75 yard or longer shot.
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