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Old 06-10-2017, 08:38 PM   #1
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:05 PM   #2
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About 10 tons and 4 tons of cottonseed. That's just because I can't keep up while I'm gone for work
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:09 PM   #3
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3,000 lbs protein and 600 lbs cottenseed on 100 acres since February.
Will be going through 1,500 mth till October plus cottenseed if they keep it up
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:11 PM   #4
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Been going through 750 lbs every 2 to 3 weeks since March.
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:30 PM   #5
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About 3 acres in Trinity Co. , and five acres in Rusk Co.
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:33 PM   #6
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36 tons since Jan 1st
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:05 PM   #7
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I'm going through a ton per month.



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Old 06-10-2017, 10:22 PM   #8
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6 tons.....they have been hammering it lately.
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Old 06-11-2017, 08:10 AM   #9
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About 3 tons on 400 acres since February.


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Old 06-11-2017, 11:14 AM   #10
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5 tons since January.
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Old 06-11-2017, 12:28 PM   #11
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Roughly 10 tons of cottonseed and 20 tons of protein so far.
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Old 06-11-2017, 12:41 PM   #12
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Just got new lease. Headed out next weekend to put out
Feeders. Hope to be long term lease so we can feed protein
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Old 06-11-2017, 02:53 PM   #13
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28 tons of protein and about 4 tons cotton seed
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Old 06-11-2017, 03:12 PM   #14
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Too much.
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Old 06-11-2017, 03:16 PM   #15
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8 tons of protein and 4 tons of cottonseed so far
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Old 06-11-2017, 04:52 PM   #16
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About 3 acres in Trinity Co. , and five acres in Rusk Co.
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Old 06-11-2017, 07:12 PM   #17
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If I had a choice I would go food plots over protein feeders every day of the week - we run cameras on our feeders and at the best a deer will come to the feeder twice per day and be there less than 5 minutes each time. How much can they really ingest in that short of a time?

On the other hand, deer are born to browse. If they have a food plot to graze on they will stay out there for hours and ingest much more than they ever could or would at a feeder.

We are in south texas so unless you have irrigation (which we do not) a food plot is just too iffy - but they are the ticket IMO
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:06 AM   #18
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If I had a choice I would go food plots over protein feeders every day of the week - we run cameras on our feeders and at the best a deer will come to the feeder twice per day and be there less than 5 minutes each time. How much can they really ingest in that short of a time?

On the other hand, deer are born to browse. If they have a food plot to graze on they will stay out there for hours and ingest much more than they ever could or would at a feeder.

We are in south texas so unless you have irrigation (which we do not) a food plot is just too iffy - but they are the ticket IMO
I have a little different results on my lease. I feed protein free choice for an hour and a half each morning and each evening. My cameras show deer showing up and waiting for the feed to dispense, then once it feeds, they show to be eating for most of an hour. They'll eat a bit then wander off and come back a bit later for another bite. They repeat the back and forth until they've had their fill.
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:49 AM   #19
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17 tons of protein since February
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:54 AM   #20
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I just have one protein feeder out. They are hitting it pretty hard now, about 500 lbs or more a month. I know I am feeding a lot of coons, but I am beginning to put a dent in them.
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:28 PM   #21
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I have a little different results on my lease. I feed protein free choice for an hour and a half each morning and each evening. My cameras show deer showing up and waiting for the feed to dispense, then once it feeds, they show to be eating for most of an hour. They'll eat a bit then wander off and come back a bit later for another bite. They repeat the back and forth until they've had their fill.
that is interesting - we have free choice and have cameras on the feeders. Our cameras are set to trigger every 5 minutes - most deer are gone by the second pictures and almost always gone by the third picture
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:50 PM   #22
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We go through about 5 tons a month
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Old 06-12-2017, 03:06 PM   #23
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14 tons of protein and 6 tons of cotton seed so far
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Old 06-12-2017, 03:22 PM   #24
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5 tons on 450 acres HF near Rocksprings with a refill trip planned this weekend.

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Old 06-12-2017, 11:48 PM   #25
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2000lb feeders, about to refill them for the 4th time. I didn't fill them the 1st time until mid-Feb and haven't been good about not letting them go dry. Otherwise add another 1-2 fillings.
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:30 AM   #26
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East TX
1 ton of protein
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:04 AM   #27
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about 60,000 lbs of protein
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Old 07-02-2017, 03:50 PM   #28
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For you guys throwing out these amounts of protein, what size acreages correlate to these amounts? And what your goals for the year? Do you have a goal of so many #'s per acre or year?


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Old 07-03-2017, 09:37 AM   #29
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The ranch is 1120 acres with us trying to carry around 120 deer for the property. Our goal is just to keep the feeders full so we go once every 2 or 3 weeks to top them off. The deer dictate how much we put out. As long as they keep eating we will keep buying protein to refill. We only feed protein from February-October then we switch to corn.
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:55 AM   #30
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About 3500lb every 6 weeks
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Old 07-03-2017, 11:33 AM   #31
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Picking up a pallet right now on Llano
A pallet is lasting about 3 weeks.
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Old 07-03-2017, 12:37 PM   #32
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Deer have slacked off quite a bit on the protein the last few weeks. It's funny I haven't even seen a coon in a month at the feeders!!!!!! I've got cell cams on all my feeders
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Old 07-03-2017, 12:37 PM   #33
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If I had a choice I would go food plots over protein feeders every day of the week - we run cameras on our feeders and at the best a deer will come to the feeder twice per day and be there less than 5 minutes each time. How much can they really ingest in that short of a time?

On the other hand, deer are born to browse. If they have a food plot to graze on they will stay out there for hours and ingest much more than they ever could or would at a feeder.

We are in south texas so unless you have irrigation (which we do not) a food plot is just too iffy - but they are the ticket IMO
Agree 100%. With the amount of money spent on feed you would almost think it would be cheaper to set up irrigation and plant. Just look at the amount of forage you can provide by planting vs. a feeder. Heck a clover food plot is like a protein feeder that refills itself. The only drawback I can think of is a protein pellet will always have the same level of attraction, a plant's level of attraction can vary depending on conditions and what stage of growth it is in. Well that, and as you mentioned a food plot won't grow in many places.

I think the amount of time deer spend a protein feeder eating is also going to be determined by the habitat/soil. With outstanding habitat/soil deer are going to spend less time at the feeder versus good or poor habitat.
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Old 07-05-2017, 02:35 PM   #34
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Mine have dropped off to hardly anything which is very unusual. We did get 4.7 inches of rain 7-10 days ago and this may have caused it.

2 1000lb feeders filled on June 14th. Only eaten roughly 200 lbs each max as of today. Very weird with high deer numbers.
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:48 PM   #35
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Around 10,000lbs of protein, 5,150lbs of cottonseed and 5,250lbs of corn on just under 400 acres in Menard County since January 1st 2017.
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Old 07-05-2017, 04:02 PM   #36
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If I had a choice I would go food plots over protein feeders every day of the week - we run cameras on our feeders and at the best a deer will come to the feeder twice per day and be there less than 5 minutes each time. How much can they really ingest in that short of a time?

On the other hand, deer are born to browse. If they have a food plot to graze on they will stay out there for hours and ingest much more than they ever could or would at a feeder.

We are in south texas so unless you have irrigation (which we do not) a food plot is just too iffy - but they are the ticket IMO
Just to offer another data point to this conversation I feed protein here on my farm in La and also have over 100 acres of year round food plots. I have 1-2 feeders on every plot and go thru about 4-5 tons a month. I've been feeding pellets for a long time and I'm convinced all the deer have become habituated to the feeders even with growing lush fields steps away.

This with a well managed population , ongoing habitat mgt. and probably 1 acre plot for every 2 deer [swag ]

I'm also convinced, anecdotally , that adding pellets to the program adds 5-15% to top side antler growth even with an established year round food plot program. No, I can't back that scientifically but nonetheless believe it true from observation. I think there are lots of reasons why though.We simply grow much bigger bucks than anyone in the neighborhood [ or state for that matter].

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Old 07-05-2017, 04:32 PM   #37
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I hunt a 400 acre pasture on a 20K acre LF lease in Brackettville. So far, I've fed 15000# protein. My goal is to feed 2300#/ month, every month, and as effectively as I can. That's my $$$ budget.

I figure I'm feeding 40-45 deer that consume an average of 1.8# per day each.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:16 PM   #38
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Just to offer another data point to this conversation I feed protein here on my farm in La and also have over 100 acres of year round food plots. I have 1-2 feeders on every plot and go thru about 4-5 tons a month. I've been feeding pellets for a long time and I'm convinced all the deer have become habituated to the feeders even with growing lush fields steps away.

This with a well managed population , ongoing habitat mgt. and probably 1 acre plot for every 2 deer [swag ]

I'm also convinced, anecdotally , that adding pellets to the program adds 5-15% to top side antler growth even with an established year round food plot program. No, I can't back that scientifically but nonetheless believe it true from observation. I think there are lots of reasons why though.We simply grow much bigger bucks than anyone in the neighborhood [ or state for that matter].


That is so interesting and surprising to read. Thanks for weighing in. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side, but in this case you own both lawns in the same neighborhood so you are qualified to make that assessment.

When I planted my first food plot in Wisconsin I was amazed at how much the deer didn't use it versus s feeder situation. I always assumed it was because there was lots of other good/browse available. Could be other factors too...

I have never hunted a place that had both planted food plots and feeders.
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Old 07-07-2017, 01:49 PM   #39
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3 tons at one feeder for my area of the lease. West Texas Crockett county.
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Old 07-07-2017, 02:08 PM   #40
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Wow that would never look like that on our place to many deer.
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Old 07-08-2017, 09:27 PM   #42
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We've fed about 22,000# on our lease outside Rocksprings so far this offseason. On 3200 acres. This is mainly due to budget restrictions. We could feed twice that as far as their consumption rate is concerned. But we just can't spend that $$$ to feed that much. By my calculations they would go through close to 100,000lb per 6 month off-season if we kept feeders full all the time. But that's some serious dough just to try and turn 120" deer into 130"-140" deer.


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Old 07-27-2017, 01:12 PM   #44
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1125 acres

>3000 lbs cottonseed
>33 tons L&E, about to order another 6 tons
>The 6 gets us through antler growth and then depending on rain we'll switch over to corn till January.

Deer are consuming 12K lbs every 4 weeks.

To the green screen - you should note El Gato's comments and his post about his property. What he has accomplished is pretty amazing on his place. Our limiting factor is moisture. We have the age, solid genetics however we lack in any kind of consistent moisture thus impacting the nutritional plane of the herd. I have learned for us that to plant oats/wheat before Thanksgiving is flushing dollars down the commode. Last winter I planted the week before Christmas and had great patches till it turned hot in early May.

I'm absolutely convinced its all about the greens and protein becomes the icing on the cake. In our case the protein fills the greens void!

I strongly recommend that anyone interested in increasing the nutritional plane of your herd take the time to read through El Gato's thread. Its a fascinating read if your a whitetail freak and you just might learn a thing or too from the master
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>33 tons L&E, about to order another 6 tons
>The 6 gets us through antler growth and then depending on rain we'll switch over to corn till January.

Deer are consuming 12K lbs every 4 weeks.

To the green screen - you should note El Gato's comments and his post about his property. What he has accomplished is pretty amazing on his place. Our limiting factor is moisture. We have the age, solid genetics however we lack in any kind of consistent moisture thus impacting the nutritional plane of the herd. I have learned for us that to plant oats/wheat before Thanksgiving is flushing dollars down the commode. Last winter I planted the week before Christmas and had great patches till it turned hot in early May.

I'm absolutely convinced its all about the greens and protein becomes the icing on the cake. In our case the protein fills the greens void!

I strongly recommend that anyone interested in increasing the nutritional plane of your herd take the time to read through El Gato's thread. Its a fascinating read if your a whitetail freak and you just might learn a thing or too from the master
Ever think about investing in a pivot irrigator. You can find used pivots for 15k-20k that would irrigate 100+ acres. You would need a well drilled though. A food plot in South Texas would be incredible.
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How big of a well would be required to support a pivot. Another rancher I know told be recently that he spent in excess of $100K to rebuild his pivot well, Granted it looked like a 12" pipe coming out of the ground. You raise an interesting question....
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How big of a well would be required to support a pivot. Another rancher I know told be recently that he spent in excess of $100K to rebuild his pivot well, Granted it looked like a 12" pipe coming out of the ground. You raise an interesting question....
They're high, even when you can hit shallow water. If you can afford a pivot for a deer plot, you have some serious coin.
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:21 PM   #48
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Wells in some areas of some of the counties in South Texas will be very deep...like 3000' to 4000'+ and be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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How big of a well would be required to support a pivot. Another rancher I know told be recently that he spent in excess of $100K to rebuild his pivot well, Granted it looked like a 12" pipe coming out of the ground. You raise an interesting question....
For let's say 10 tower pivot 1600ft in length you would need a minimum of around 1200gpm probably 10 inch well. But if you had to drill 1000 or more ft it probably would not be worth it. We had a well drilled here in southeast Texas around 500ft that pumps 3000gpm for around 250,000 which was outrageously expensive, decided we needed more wells so we bought are own rig and dug the same well for 75,000.
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For let's say 10 tower pivot 1600ft in length you would need a minimum of around 1200gpm probably 10 inch well. But if you had to drill 1000 or more ft it probably would not be worth it. We had a well drilled here in southeast Texas around 500ft that pumps 3000gpm for around 250,000 which was outrageously expensive, decided we needed more wells so we bought are own rig and dug the same well for 75,000.
Then if you don't have it yet, a tractor and all the equipment to keep up the 100 acres of food plots. Then electric or power source to run the well. If I were going to do it I would make 3-30 acre plots and use a tow-able pivot. I would center the well and plots spaced around it, then run water to each field. Utilize the ranch habitat better and space the deer. I like spending someone else's money

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