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Old 05-06-2012, 09:13 PM   #1
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Default Rattle snake ID?

A friend sent me this pic. Can't say I have seen a pattern like this before.

What is it?

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Old 05-06-2012, 09:17 PM   #2
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Sorry can't help ya, but it's a good looking rattlesnake Brent. Was this here in Montgomery Cty?
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:21 PM   #3
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we call them ground rattlers they only get about 3 feet long. had one bite me 4 years ago
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:23 PM   #4
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x2 going with ground rattlers
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:26 PM   #5
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What's a ground rattler? Must be an North Tx thing
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:27 PM   #6
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It's a prairie rattler.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:28 PM   #7
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Looks to me to be DEAD!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:29 PM   #8
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Pigmy rattlesnake? Looks similar to one my dog was nose to nose at state park in Wichita Falls. Park ranger said " wow a pigmy"
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:30 PM   #9
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Its a dead rattler. DUH!



Dern, legshot beat me to it.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:43 PM   #10
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anybody ever seen or killed a grey rattle snake? i think they are called rock rattlers

i killed one north of sonora. you could here him rattling in between the rocks as we walked over them.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:45 PM   #11
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We call them prairie rattlers.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:49 PM   #12
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Pygmy is a little darker grey. Anyhow it's a good one!



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Old 05-06-2012, 09:49 PM   #13
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Is that a western massasauga?
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:53 PM   #14
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It's a prairie rattler.
Yep that what we call them around our place.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:53 PM   #15
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Prairie Rattler. According to this website Texas has 10 species of rattle bugs !! http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/o...articles/tdr01

RATTLESNAKES. Texas has some ten rattlesnake species and subspecies, more than any other state except Arizona. Only three species interact significantly with human beings, however-the western diamondback (Crotalus atrox), the prairie (C. viridus viridus), and the eastern timber or canebrake (C. horridus atricaudatus). These species are widely distributed, are comparatively large, and often exhibit an aggressive temperament. The western diamondback (atrox denotes "frightful" or "grim") accounts for nearly all the state's serious cases of venom poisoning. The venom of all three species contains both neurotoxically active peptide components and a larger complement of enzymatic fractions that destroy blood and tissue. Diamondback venom has more of the latter as well as about a third greater overall potency than the toxins of either C. viridus or C. horridus.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:55 PM   #16
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We call them prairie rattlers.
This^^^
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:55 PM   #17
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Not sure... ain't the pygmies a lil shorter?
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:01 PM   #18
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:05 PM   #19
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He's not a prairie rattler. Prairie rattlers are all that we have here and they don't have a coon tail on them. It might be a massasagua.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #20
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Prairie rattlers don't have black/white stripes on their tails.

Oops, txarcher beat me to it.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:37 PM   #21
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What county?
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:41 PM   #22
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heck if i know, but its a better snake than before the pic was taken.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:13 PM   #23
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anybody ever seen or killed a grey rattle snake? i think they are called rock rattlers

i killed one north of sonora. you could here him rattling in between the rocks as we walked over them.
Yea, I have. They're protected!


















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Old 05-06-2012, 11:21 PM   #24
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Is that a western massasauga?
This was my first thought also.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:35 PM   #25
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Yea, I have. They're protected!
it is not listed.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild...es_amphibians/

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Snakes State Status Federal Status (Listed)
Scarlet Snake
Cemophora coccinea Threatened
Black-striped Snake
Coniophanes imperialis Threatened
Texas Indigo Snake
Drymarchon melanurus erebennus Threatened
Speckled Racer
Drymobius margaritiferus Threatened
Northern Cat-eyed Snake
Leptodeira septentrionalis Threatened
Brazos Water Snake
Nerodia harteri Threatened
Concho Water Snake
Concho Water Snake (PDF 335.9 KB)
Nerodia paucimaculata Threatened - Proposed for Delisting
Smooth Green Snake
Liochlorophis vernalis Threatened
Louisiana Pine Snake
Pituophis ruthveni Threatened Federal Candidate for Listing
Trans-Pecos Black-headed Snake
Tantilla cucullata Threatened
Chihuahuan Desert Lyre Snake
Trimorphodon vilkinsonii Threatened
Timber (Canebrake) Rattlesnake
Crotalus horridus Threatened
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:42 PM   #26
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I think it's just a regular ol' Western Diamondback.

I've seen a bunch of Prairie Rattlesnakes and have never seen one that looked like that before.They don't have black and white bands on their tail and their patterns are more of a square shape than diamond shaped.And Western Massasauga's look very similar to a Prairie Rattlesnake.I think maybe that one could have just recently shed its skin so that's why it looks a little lighter in color???I don't really know that for a fact but that's my best guess.

I forgot to mention that both Mojave Rattlesnakes and Western Diamondbacks have black and white bands on their tail like that.One of the easiest ways to tell the difference is to look at the width of the black and white bands on their tail.The width of the bands will be the same on the Western Diamondback.The white bands on Mojave Rattlesnakes are wider than the black bands.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:28 AM   #27
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what did the tail look like?

I think I killed a rock rattler? (maybe some call a prairie rattler) Real County Texas

had a black tip, no bands leading up the the rattler.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:52 AM   #28
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what did the tail look like?

I think I killed a rock rattler? (maybe some call a prairie rattler) Real County Texas

had a black tip, no bands leading up the the rattler.
That sounds like it might be a velvet tail.
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