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TexaRican · 07-28-2010, 10:36 AM

I've got 2 chances to hunt hogs next week and I'm sure I'm ready. Just don't know what broadhead to choose. 45lb 60" recurve that quite honestly is not very powerful. I'd say my max shot will be about 20 yards.

Looking for something budget friendly so I was just going to grab the 2 blade Magnus from Academy unless I hear better suggestions.

kestimator · 07-28-2010, 10:56 AM

What weight practice points have you been using? What is the weight of your arrow set-up?

TexaRican · 07-28-2010, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kestimator

What weight practice points have you been using? What is the weight of your arrow set-up?

466gr overall, 125gr point

Night Wing · 07-28-2010, 11:04 AM

A 45# bow is plenty for hogs. Just shoot a heavy arrow and it will get the job done. I've been shooting a 42# bow, with a 528 grain 32" BOP Easton 2212 aluminum arrow tipped with a 145 grain STOS 2 blade broadhead which gave me 12.57 grains per pound (GPP) with 17.3% FOC.

But, I'm in the process of setting up a much heavier arrow. A 32" BOP 2215 aluminum arrow weighing in at 610 grains tipped with a 165 grain Ace Express 2 blade broadhead. This will give me 14.52 gains per pound (GPP) with 16.7% FOC. I'll give up some speed, but this extra weight will be a devastating heavy arrow setup for a 42# bow.

Texastaxi · 07-28-2010, 11:09 AM

I like the NAP Razorbacks. Similar shape as the Silver flames at a fraction of the cost.

The only thing I don't care for is the head will spin on the shaft (by design) and you have to use a wire looking tool to tighten them up on your arrow.

Ol Man · 07-28-2010, 11:14 AM

I would look at buying the 145 grain STOS and putting a 30 grain Broadhead adapter in them. This would give you a 175 grain combination... Filed points come in 175 grain as well so they would be matched. STOS are a great head and inexpensive compared to others. They can be bought from 3 Rivers Archery.. or ordered form STOS themselves.

kestimator · 07-28-2010, 11:17 AM

I agree with Night Wing that heavier would be better, but I'd also not be afraid to screw some of the 125 gr Magnus 2-blades from Academy in and go hunting. I would of course practice with them first. They may not go into the same spot that your field points are hitting.

glen · 07-28-2010, 11:41 AM

Magnus Stingers in 125grain if I was in your shoes.

Cottonwood · 07-28-2010, 11:47 AM

I still like my Zwickey's, but if I wasn't using these the Eclipse 145 gr 2 blade double bevel.

Idaho TradBow · 07-28-2010, 12:17 PM

I have used those referenced two blade Magnus II 125 grain broadheads for years with good results on all kinds of game until this past Friday the 23rd. I shot my first Texas Hog and got a mere 6 1/2" penetration and the head came off the ferrule inside the animal. I recovered the animal, but I've been thinking strongly since about going to a different head. It may have been a fluke as I have had many good clean harvests with this head. Several ungulates, and one bear. Many were pass throughs. I don't have a good explanation for the head failure on the hog. Maybe it's just this one head that got past QC as far as the mounting on the ferrule. Here's a pic of the ferrule after the head came off. The tip of the head also curled pretty badly even though no major bone was hit. This limited penetration. The arrow with ferrule as pictured fell out of the animal which I found about 30 yds into the track job, and the head was inside the animal. This may not have ended as well as it did. I am going to give these heads another go on another hog, and if I get another failure I will go to another head. Also blood trails aren't exactly great with these heads. Something to consider. I know what you mean about them being inexpensive though at $19.95 for a half dozen at Academy. Hard to argue with that...I'm doubting them now though. Food for thought. Felt I should share as you mentioned your interest in these heads. Great on deer and other such thin skinned game though. And will punch through a deer's ribs. The anatomy on these pigs seem to be more "industrial grade" stuff. FYI, I use 29 1/2" Easton 2117's with an extra 25 grains of those screw in weights mounted inside the shaft at the rear of the aluminum insert making my total point weight with insert/weights/head a beefy 175 grains, shot from a 55 lb Super Kodiak around 200 fps. So yeah, I'd say these pigs are heavy duty!!!

FishnHunt · 07-28-2010, 07:32 PM

2 blade Magnus will be fine. Id recommend removing the pointy tip. You can either clip the very tip off or nock it off with a file or round it off.......all of those will help keep the tip from rollling.
Ive seen 3 hogs get killed this summer w/ Mangus 125s and Ive killed deer and hogs w/ em in the past too. They are not the best head money can buy but they will do the job just fine.

Ol Man · 07-28-2010, 07:55 PM

Pepperfool,

PM me I have 200-300 different broadheads... the only ones you can't borrow are my silver flames or my Abowyers... Got magnus 1's, Magnus II's, Bear, Howard Hill, Tuskers, Ribteks, FirstCut, Grizzlies etc...

FishnHunt · 07-28-2010, 08:02 PM

Ol Man you got any 160 grain glue on simmons interceptors that you want to trade/sell?

huntinpool · 07-28-2010, 08:44 PM

Abowyer

Ol Man · 07-28-2010, 08:47 PM

No simmons at all... never could get over the shape of the head. Sorry!

FishnHunt · 07-28-2010, 09:19 PM

Ol man - thanks for checking

Pepperfool - the magnus 125s will be fine. Just get them sharp. I passed thru a doe broadside last year with 37# bow and a magnus 125 on 515 grain arrow. Also last season....spined a spike @ 14 yards with the same 37# bow and a magnus 125 (head lodged in vert) and down for count. And spined yet another deer @ 20 yards with another 125 magnus, that was a beautiful shot and I watched the arrow sail towards the doe exactly where I wanted but she ducked, the 125 tipped axis arrow passed thru the vert severing the spinal cord and then lodged in the off shoulder! Those were all 515 grain arrows out of the 37# bow. Later that season I shot a young buck at 17? yards with a 580 grain wensel woodsman tipped arrow from the same 37# bow and got complete passthru, again with an axis arrow.

Then I moved up to a 43# bow then a 50# bow and it shot so fast it felt like I was shooting a compound again!

Your 45# bow and the magnus 125s will be fine.

Bowtechlady · 07-28-2010, 10:41 PM

I like the Muzzy Phantoms in 125 grain. I am going hog hunting next weekend and will let you know how well they perform on the hogs.

I have used them so far to harvest a red stag in NZ, a Rio Grande turkey, and a coral snake.

They performed flawless so far...

TxAg · 07-28-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Idaho TradBow

I have used those referenced two blade Magnus II 125 grain broadheads for years with good results on all kinds of game until this past Friday the 23rd. I shot my first Texas Hog and got a mere 6 1/2" penetration and the head came off the ferrule inside the animal. I recovered the animal, but I've been thinking strongly since about going to a different head. It may have been a fluke as I have had many good clean harvests with this head. Several ungulates, and one bear. Many were pass throughs. I don't have a good explanation for the head failure on the hog. Maybe it's just this one head that got past QC as far as the mounting on the ferrule. Here's a pic of the ferrule after the head came off. The tip of the head also curled pretty badly even though no major bone was hit. This limited penetration. The arrow with ferrule as pictured fell out of the animal which I found about 30 yds into the track job, and the head was inside the animal. This may not have ended as well as it did. I am going to give these heads another go on another hog, and if I get another failure I will go to another head. Also blood trails aren't exactly great with these heads. Something to consider. I know what you mean about them being inexpensive though at $19.95 for a half dozen at Academy. Hard to argue with that...I'm doubting them now though. Food for thought. Felt I should share as you mentioned your interest in these heads. Great on deer and other such thin skinned game though. And will punch through a deer's ribs. The anatomy on these pigs seem to be more "industrial grade" stuff. FYI, I use 29 1/2" Easton 2117's with an extra 25 grains of those screw in weights mounted inside the shaft at the rear of the aluminum insert making my total point weight with insert/weights/head a beefy 175 grains, shot from a 55 lb Super Kodiak around 200 fps. So yeah, I'd say these pigs are heavy duty!!!

I've had similar experiences, although not on live game. Mostly just testing the broadhead....everything from pumpkins to plastic buckets. I like Magnus, but I'm considering trying the 3 blade in place of the 2 blade, mainly b/c of poor blood trails and curling tips (other people's experiences, not mine)

mkguthrie · 07-28-2010, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glen

Magnus Stingers in 125grain if I was in your shoes.

What he said

TexaRican · 07-29-2010, 10:33 AM

Thanks everyboday. I picked up the 125gr pack at Academy last night. Walked out this morning and let one field tip fly just a couple of inches below my aim spot but still a good kill shot. Then I let my first ever broadhead fly and it was a dead center bullseye. They actually seem to fly a little flatter than my field tips. Penetration in my block target is only a couple inches more than the field tips though. Should I worry about that?

Tonight I'll be practicing from the 2nd floor shooting down and across the yard to approximate the 15' ladder stand I think I could be hunting this weekend!

warrior62 · 07-29-2010, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Man

Pepperfool,

PM me I have 200-300 different broadheads... the only ones you can't borrow are my silver flames or my Abowyers... Got magnus 1's, Magnus II's, Bear, Howard Hill, Tuskers, Ribteks, FirstCut, Grizzlies etc...

ol man, How do the Howard Hills fly ?

Justin342987 · 07-29-2010, 11:22 AM

Gotta love Magnus Buzzcuts

Ol Man · 07-29-2010, 11:45 AM

Howard Hills fly great... they are hard to sharpen if you haven't done them before.. I have the 165's - maybe 2-3 dozen.

TexaRican · 07-29-2010, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Man

Pepperfool,

PM me I have 200-300 different broadheads... the only ones you can't borrow are my silver flames or my Abowyers... Got magnus 1's, Magnus II's, Bear, Howard Hill, Tuskers, Ribteks, FirstCut, Grizzlies etc...

Thanks for the offer. I actually just saw this for some reason. I'll try what I have for now and see how it goes.

Idaho TradBow · 07-29-2010, 12:59 PM

Good luck with those heads pepper....I'm going back out again tonight to give my Magnus II 125's a chance to redeem themselves on an even bigger/tougher hawg. I's going to take the suggestion from FishnHunt of clipping the very tip aka the time honored bear razorhead chisle tip broadheads I used with good success for so many years...my quiver has a flat metal stop backing the foam insert that keeps turning my broadhead tips up too so the chisle tip might just cure that problem as well.

07-28-2010, 10:36 AM	#1
TexaRican Six Point Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cypress Hunt In: S.H.N.F.	First broadhead - what to buy? I've got 2 chances to hunt hogs next week and I'm sure I'm ready. Just don't know what broadhead to choose. 45lb 60" recurve that quite honestly is not very powerful. I'd say my max shot will be about 20 yards. Looking for something budget friendly so I was just going to grab the 2 blade Magnus from Academy unless I hear better suggestions.

07-28-2010, 11:04 AM	#4
Night Wing Eight Point Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Magnolia, TX	A 45# bow is plenty for hogs. Just shoot a heavy arrow and it will get the job done. I've been shooting a 42# bow, with a 528 grain 32" BOP Easton 2212 aluminum arrow tipped with a 145 grain STOS 2 blade broadhead which gave me 12.57 grains per pound (GPP) with 17.3% FOC. But, I'm in the process of setting up a much heavier arrow. A 32" BOP 2215 aluminum arrow weighing in at 610 grains tipped with a 165 grain Ace Express 2 blade broadhead. This will give me 14.52 gains per pound (GPP) with 16.7% FOC. I'll give up some speed, but this extra weight will be a devastating heavy arrow setup for a 42# bow. __________________ Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2117. PW: 195 Grains. AW: 632 Grains. GPP: 15.04 Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2114. PW: 200 Grains. AW: 570 Grains. GPP: 15.40 Last edited by Night Wing; 07-28-2010 at 11:06 AM..

07-28-2010, 11:09 AM	#5
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07-28-2010, 11:14 AM	#6
Ol Man Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Magnolia, TX	I would look at buying the 145 grain STOS and putting a 30 grain Broadhead adapter in them. This would give you a 175 grain combination... Filed points come in 175 grain as well so they would be matched. STOS are a great head and inexpensive compared to others. They can be bought from 3 Rivers Archery.. or ordered form STOS themselves. __________________ Archery is more than a sport...it's part of my life. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-2010, 11:47 AM	#9
Cottonwood Six Point Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kalispell, Mt Hunt In: Montana	I still like my Zwickey's, but if I wasn't using these the Eclipse 145 gr 2 blade double bevel. __________________ Montana Bowhunters Association, Traditional Bowhunters of Montana W.W.F.B.D. What would Fred Bear do?

07-28-2010, 10:56 AM	#2
kestimator Six Point Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Austin Hunt In: Cherokee and Granger	What weight practice points have you been using? What is the weight of your arrow set-up?

07-28-2010, 11:17 AM	#7
kestimator Six Point Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Austin Hunt In: Cherokee and Granger	I agree with Night Wing that heavier would be better, but I'd also not be afraid to screw some of the 125 gr Magnus 2-blades from Academy in and go hunting. I would of course practice with them first. They may not go into the same spot that your field points are hitting.

07-28-2010, 11:41 AM	#8
glen Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cedar Park Texas	Magnus Stingers in 125grain if I was in your shoes.

07-28-2010, 12:17 PM	#10
Idaho TradBow Six Point Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antone Hunt In: South & Central Texas Public Lands	I have used those referenced two blade Magnus II 125 grain broadheads for years with good results on all kinds of game until this past Friday the 23rd. I shot my first Texas Hog and got a mere 6 1/2" penetration and the head came off the ferrule inside the animal. I recovered the animal, but I've been thinking strongly since about going to a different head. It may have been a fluke as I have had many good clean harvests with this head. Several ungulates, and one bear. Many were pass throughs. I don't have a good explanation for the head failure on the hog. Maybe it's just this one head that got past QC as far as the mounting on the ferrule. Here's a pic of the ferrule after the head came off. The tip of the head also curled pretty badly even though no major bone was hit. This limited penetration. The arrow with ferrule as pictured fell out of the animal which I found about 30 yds into the track job, and the head was inside the animal. This may not have ended as well as it did. I am going to give these heads another go on another hog, and if I get another failure I will go to another head. Also blood trails aren't exactly great with these heads. Something to consider. I know what you mean about them being inexpensive though at $19.95 for a half dozen at Academy. Hard to argue with that...I'm doubting them now though. Food for thought. Felt I should share as you mentioned your interest in these heads. Great on deer and other such thin skinned game though. And will punch through a deer's ribs. The anatomy on these pigs seem to be more "industrial grade" stuff. FYI, I use 29 1/2" Easton 2117's with an extra 25 grains of those screw in weights mounted inside the shaft at the rear of the aluminum insert making my total point weight with insert/weights/head a beefy 175 grains, shot from a 55 lb Super Kodiak around 200 fps. So yeah, I'd say these pigs are heavy duty!!! Attached Images __________________ Busy scrapin' the "green" from that "greener pasture" off the sole of my boot... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Glenn Beck is my Hero. For many reasons. We need more Glenn Becks. Now. Before it's too late. Last edited by Idaho TradBow; 07-28-2010 at 12:27 PM..

07-28-2010, 07:32 PM	#11
FishnHunt Four Point Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Antonio	2 blade Magnus will be fine. Id recommend removing the pointy tip. You can either clip the very tip off or nock it off with a file or round it off.......all of those will help keep the tip from rollling. Ive seen 3 hogs get killed this summer w/ Mangus 125s and Ive killed deer and hogs w/ em in the past too. They are not the best head money can buy but they will do the job just fine.

07-28-2010, 07:55 PM	#12
Ol Man Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Magnolia, TX	Pepperfool, PM me I have 200-300 different broadheads... the only ones you can't borrow are my silver flames or my Abowyers... Got magnus 1's, Magnus II's, Bear, Howard Hill, Tuskers, Ribteks, FirstCut, Grizzlies etc... __________________ Archery is more than a sport...it's part of my life. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-2010, 08:02 PM	#13
FishnHunt Four Point Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Antonio	Ol Man you got any 160 grain glue on simmons interceptors that you want to trade/sell?

07-28-2010, 08:44 PM	#14
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07-28-2010, 08:47 PM	#15
Ol Man Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Magnolia, TX	No simmons at all... never could get over the shape of the head. Sorry! __________________ Archery is more than a sport...it's part of my life. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-28-2010, 09:19 PM	#16
FishnHunt Four Point Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Antonio	Ol man - thanks for checking Pepperfool - the magnus 125s will be fine. Just get them sharp. I passed thru a doe broadside last year with 37# bow and a magnus 125 on 515 grain arrow. Also last season....spined a spike @ 14 yards with the same 37# bow and a magnus 125 (head lodged in vert) and down for count. And spined yet another deer @ 20 yards with another 125 magnus, that was a beautiful shot and I watched the arrow sail towards the doe exactly where I wanted but she ducked, the 125 tipped axis arrow passed thru the vert severing the spinal cord and then lodged in the off shoulder! Those were all 515 grain arrows out of the 37# bow. Later that season I shot a young buck at 17? yards with a 580 grain wensel woodsman tipped arrow from the same 37# bow and got complete passthru, again with an axis arrow. Then I moved up to a 43# bow then a 50# bow and it shot so fast it felt like I was shooting a compound again! Your 45# bow and the magnus 125s will be fine.

07-28-2010, 10:41 PM	#17
Bowtechlady Ten Point Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas Hunt In: Blanco County, Gillespie County, Polk County	I like the Muzzy Phantoms in 125 grain. I am going hog hunting next weekend and will let you know how well they perform on the hogs. I have used them so far to harvest a red stag in NZ, a Rio Grande turkey, and a coral snake. They performed flawless so far... __________________ Sarrels Superstition Longbow 42 lbs. at 28 inches Sarrels Prototype Ridgecatt Recurve 60 inches, 46 lbs. at 28 inches Blueridge Longbow 62 inches, 46 lbs. at 28 inches

07-29-2010, 10:33 AM	#20
TexaRican Six Point Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cypress Hunt In: S.H.N.F.	Thanks everyboday. I picked up the 125gr pack at Academy last night. Walked out this morning and let one field tip fly just a couple of inches below my aim spot but still a good kill shot. Then I let my first ever broadhead fly and it was a dead center bullseye. They actually seem to fly a little flatter than my field tips. Penetration in my block target is only a couple inches more than the field tips though. Should I worry about that? Tonight I'll be practicing from the 2nd floor shooting down and across the yard to approximate the 15' ladder stand I think I could be hunting this weekend!

07-29-2010, 11:22 AM	#22
Justin342987 Nubbin' Buck Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: DeKalb, Tx, Hunt In: NE Texas, SE Oklahoma	Gotta love Magnus Buzzcuts

07-29-2010, 11:45 AM	#23
Ol Man Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Magnolia, TX	Howard Hills fly great... they are hard to sharpen if you haven't done them before.. I have the 165's - maybe 2-3 dozen. __________________ Archery is more than a sport...it's part of my life. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-29-2010, 12:59 PM	#25
Idaho TradBow Six Point Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antone Hunt In: South & Central Texas Public Lands	Good luck with those heads pepper....I'm going back out again tonight to give my Magnus II 125's a chance to redeem themselves on an even bigger/tougher hawg. I's going to take the suggestion from FishnHunt of clipping the very tip aka the time honored bear razorhead chisle tip broadheads I used with good success for so many years...my quiver has a flat metal stop backing the foam insert that keeps turning my broadhead tips up too so the chisle tip might just cure that problem as well. __________________ Busy scrapin' the "green" from that "greener pasture" off the sole of my boot... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Glenn Beck is my Hero. For many reasons. We need more Glenn Becks. Now. Before it's too late.

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