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Old 07-18-2018, 02:20 PM   #1
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I got permission to hunt a small tract of rural land several years ago. This place is riddled with deer and hogs. There are a couple sure enough good deer, but for the most part a lot of the little bucks need to be culled. The first year that I hunted it I thought that it would be a slam dunk. I thought I would be tagged out opening weekend and that would be that. Well as the old adage goes,” you get what you put in” and that is what I got… It seemed like everything had read the script. No matter what the conditions were these are still wild animals. I would see animals by chance, with no real rhyme or reason. These deer and hogs were not on any sort of true daytime schedule. In fact once I put out cameras I noticed that the majority of the activity took place at night. Year 2 I knew I needed to make a change. I was working out of town and did not have a whole lot of time to sit in the stand. A feeder was in order so I could get the wildlife on my schedule. I bought an inexpensive feeder that went on sale one weekend. It was nothing special. This feeder checked the box, it feed animals at a certain time for about 3 weeks at a time. Then I would have to go back out and recharge the battery and fill the feeder back up. Opening morning my son and I had success. A small 8 point walked out and we stuck a well-placed arrow through the vitals. I kept the feeder going just to see what else was coming around. It became very obvious that raccoons and squirrels were really hitting this feeder hard. I decided to buy a varmint guard and a solar panel. Do you think that slowed them down? These animals decided they did not like the 6volt shock they got when they played with timer. So what do they do, they go through the side of the barrel.



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Old 07-18-2018, 02:24 PM   #2
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:24 PM   #3
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At this point something had to be done. The hassle of balancing on the back of a 4 wheeler ever 3 weeks to fill the feeder and charge the battery was becoming a bourdon. The only logical solution would be to upgrade. I started doing some research. A stand and fill with a 12 volt system and a varmint cage seemed like the only way to go. I began tinkering with the design here and there and this is what I came up with.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:26 PM   #4
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:26 PM   #5
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A steel barrel, 2 inch carbon conduit, and some angle iron and I was in business. The fact that I was going to be my own fitter and welder I had to get creative.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:27 PM   #6
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:28 PM   #7
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That will work, looks good!!

I have hunted neighborhood bucks a lot and I think they are harder to hunt than the big ranches.
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:28 PM   #8
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I built a jig so that all of my angles would be typical. I watched a few videos on how to cut saddles on youtube and I was on my way. All 4 four of the legs were cut and trimmed out so that they were identical. Another jig was built so that the skids for both sides would match.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:30 PM   #9
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:31 PM   #10
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I tacked up all four of the legs, and set them aside. I had a piece of 4x4 square tubing that I split into 4 pieces length wise making 2x2 angle. With the 55 gallon drum upside down I fit and welded the angle iron up in place.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:33 PM   #11
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:33 PM   #12
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Lots of good feeders out there without needing to build. How big is the place you’re hunting? Curious because you say it’s small but has a lot of young bucks that need culling.
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:34 PM   #13
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Once that was done I started trying to figure out how to fit all of it together and make it look descent. My first attempt was to balance the legs just by leaning them up against my fab table. This is what I got for that effort.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:36 PM   #14
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It all came crashing down and cut the crap out of my thumb. So we have all heard that if something is not broke do not fix it. That’s right build another jig.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:37 PM   #15
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That was just the ticket. I was able to get the legs positioned just right and clamped down. I was able to add the top square piece, the toes for the sled, and the 2 mid horizontal pieces. It was time to get to welding.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:38 PM   #16
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:38 PM   #17
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Once the base was welded out and painted it was time to shift my focus to the barrel. I ordered a 12v Boss Buck feeder timer, a spout, and a solar panel. I ordered a 12x12 varmint cage and a galvanized lid as well.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:40 PM   #18
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:42 PM   #19
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As soon as I got to playing with my new toys I noticed that between the 12v battery and the timer were rather heavy. I assumed that self-taping screws would probably work to support the feeder timer. But it would be a lot to expect the bottom of the barrel and some screws to support it all. I decided to go back with backing plates and bolts. I had a piece of stainless bar that would work out for the backing plate. I measured the holes on the timer bracket. I laid the bolt holes out on the plate, drilled the holes, and cut the plate. Next I went to the hardware store and bought some bolts.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:43 PM   #20
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Well when I went to install all of this, I had some loose ends that I needed to sew up. For one, whatever design I came up with would need to be pretty solid. Once that funnel goes in that would be final. It is a real pain to get the funnel out once it is in. OnceI put the assembly in it hit me…


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:45 PM   #21
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I can’t hold back up on this bolt if I ever need to take the timer off. Also if the timer is not on and the funnel is installed the backing plate and the bolts could potentially fall out. So I went back to the drawing board. After much deliberation I came up with this. I would go with some scrap carbon that I had laying around.


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Old 07-18-2018, 02:47 PM   #22
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I laid out the bolt holes then cut the plate. The dimensions came out to be 5” x 2”. Time to drill.



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Old 07-18-2018, 02:50 PM   #23
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Once the holes are drilled, I taped the holes.



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This will keep the bolts from moving once inside the drum. I will then need the plate to stay in place. So this is how I prevented that. I held it in place with a self-taping screw from the bottom side of the barrel.



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Old 07-18-2018, 02:54 PM   #25
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Then I put the timer on just to see how my clearances looked.

Once that I saw that the back plate and bolt setup was going to work I removed the timer. I had some old flashing laying around that I made into a funnel. Then I installed it.


The next project I had was to install the solar panel. At first I thought just put it up on the side. It hit me that if I just put it on the side and did not guard the wiring, I would have raccoons doing pull ups on the solar panel.


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I am getting very close. Next order of business was to fit up and install the varmint cage. With the help of my number 1 hunting partner (my seven year old) we held the cage up. Yet again another obstacle… The cage will not open because of the lip on the bottom of the barrel. So this is what I came up with. It is a 2.25” by 2.25” piece of aluminum angle attached to the bottom side of the barrel. I folded about two inches of the cage door down. This should give the gate side of the cage enough clearance to open. This will probably be pretty loud when corn sprays the backside of that angle. That will be like sounding the dinner bell for everything in the woods.


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Old 07-18-2018, 03:02 PM   #29
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It was time to move on to the securing the lid. I went to the most reliable store out there and typed in latch. This is what I saw…

2 days later it showed up at the house like the majority of their product do. With the offset of the lid and the throw of the latch, you guessed it put the old engineering hat back on. With a little cable and some U-bolt clamps that I had from another project it was a no brainer.



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Old 07-18-2018, 03:06 PM   #31
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That will work, looks good!!

I have hunted neighborhood bucks a lot and I think they are harder to hunt than the big ranches.
I believe you are correct.
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:15 PM   #32
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Looks good but you wasted your money and time on that varmint cage as it will not stop the coons from spinning the corn off the plate.
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Lots of good feeders out there without needing to build. How big is the place you’re hunting? Curious because you say it’s small but has a lot of young bucks that need culling.
You are correct about the not NEEDING to build a feeder. Man hours to dollars I am completely upside down on this one. But if I never built anything my wife would start asking why I need all those tools in the garage... Plus it is fun to do in the offseason.

It is a small tract of land that bumps up to a bigger piece of land. It is not so much the young deer, but the ones with abnormalities.
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:30 PM   #34
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Looks good but you wasted your money and time on that varmint cage as it will not stop the coons from spinning the corn off the plate.
You maybe right about that just so long as they do not destroy this one. Not only that there are a few ninja tricks I have learned with a little research.
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Great job I just built two and quickly discovered those varmit cages may kinda keep raccoons out but are no match to hogs pushing up against it! In one week they completely bashed it in. I. ended up having to cut cattle guard panels to size and weld onto legs. Can't beat a good stand and fill feder! Great job!!
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:56 PM   #36
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Great job I just built two and quickly discovered those varmit cages may kinda keep raccoons out but are no match to hogs pushing up against it! In one week they completely bashed it in. I. ended up having to cut cattle guard panels to size and weld onto legs. Can't beat a good stand and fill feder! Great job!!


I may go ahead and use that cattle panel idea. Where I hunt they are regulars on the camera.


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You wouldn’t have any pictures of that cattle panel would you?


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Hopefully my buddy will post the pics I sent him to post. I can't get a picture to post on this site if my life depended on it! Ha. I sent him the one with the hog destruction as well.
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Hopefully my buddy will post the pics I sent him to post. I can't get a picture to post on this site if my life depended on it! Ha. I sent him the one with the hog destruction as well.
Here’s the pictures

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I like it.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:35 PM   #41
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Here's one I built from an old hopper from work. It holds about 1500 lbs.

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Old 07-18-2018, 10:36 PM   #42
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Here's one I built from an old hopper from work. It holds about 1500 lbs.

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Nice deer. I believe I am going to modify that cage.


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Great feeder. What kind of software did you use to draw it?
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:08 AM   #44
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I use autocad 2014. I have 2016 just have not used it yet. Do you use CAD?
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:27 AM   #45
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Good lookin feeder getup so far. I built my coon guard around the barrel. Also...I dont like funnels...so I went Jamaican on my barrel with a section of 1” steel pipe and hammered a funnel from/into the bottom of the barrel...now the barrel is the funnel.

I hope to see your LDPs. Thanks for sharing your project RyanC.

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Good lookin feeder getup so far. I built my coon guard around the barrel. Also...I dont like funnels...so I went Jamaican on my barrel with a section of 1” steel pipe and hammered a funnel from/into the bottom of the barrel...now the barrel is the funnel.

I hope to see your LDPs. Thanks for sharing your project RyanC.
Thanks my man! I will get picks up this week or next when I get it set up. Do you have any pictures of your feeder you can post? I am hoping that my varmint cage is high enough that the pigs won't destroy it. I would like to see a few examples before I put it out.
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I would like to see a few examples before I put it out.
There are a ton of them on TBH DIY forum. Use your search.

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Old 07-19-2018, 12:37 PM   #48
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If only you were as good at fixing compressors as you are at making feeders.
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Check out this thread. I posted some pics there.

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Looks good. I am retrofitting two older feeders that were give to me many years ago. Going to make them stand and fill. plus I need to build a new one too. Got one done. Legs are just for measurement purposes as they are just 3/4 conduit I think something stronger will be needed.
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