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    Barack Obama’s claim that America is better off “by almost every measure” since he became president is based on artful statistics that do more to mislead than inform.

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      Originally posted by Playa View Post
      I suspected there was some sort of twist like this. But I still don't understand how you can increase the debt while reducing deficit. Debt is the aggregate of deficits correct?


      You run a trillion dollar deficit fiscal year one. Next year you run a 750 billion dollar deficit. Congratulations, you reduced the deficit and added 1.75 trillion dollars to our debt. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji322][emoji322]


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      Last edited by Ætheling; 03-01-2017, 09:25 PM.

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        Originally posted by Playa View Post
        @xBowHunter what specifically do you believe and or value? You appear to be all over the map, but more specifically you just seem to be adept at pointing out the problems without offering any solution.

        You remind me of this commercial
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        BINGO!!! You sir WIN this thread!

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          Somebody just posts crap to argue / stir crap up . . .

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            R-Russia

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              Originally posted by systemnt View Post
              Quotes suck.
              Man I wish the mods could figure out a way to make the quote function work with the ignore feature...I cannot believe the absolute irrational thought process I'm seeing. Nothing but Freak'n pathetic drivel & a waste to engage. What some will pull out of their crack with not a shred of merit?? Makes me want to kick a puppy. Again, gotta find a way to make ignore work. Until then, I may have to just start leaving some threads alone & actually miss the meaningful content from members that have some sort of intellectual rational. I don't mind and actually appreciate meaningful content if it doesn't align with my views, but It is not worth dealing with mindless trolls dominating the thread with nonsense. Unreal!!


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              Curt nailed it:

              You just lost any credibility you "never" actually had. I've watched you spew your liberal bull**** for a while, but this takes the cake. I quote you, "Obama and Clinton actually reduced the deficit". You'd have to be dumber than a day old democrat to believe the horse**** you just typed. Obama increased the deficit by more than all previous presidents combined and that is "indisputable".

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                I thought Trump made great strides last night.

                I am not going to point fingers but you guys should educate yourself on the Libertarian Party including Xbow who seems very confused as to his party beliefs.

                Lib Party
                - believes in less government intervention
                - push for flat tax or consumption taxes
                - fiscal conservatism
                -individual liberty and responsibility
                -free market economics with minimal government intervention
                -protection of private property
                -not big on government assistance (take care of your own mentality)
                -no government bailouts for failed business

                I do agree with most of the stances except they do not support being "police" to the rest of the world.

                Im not sure how Xbow came up with his party affiliation but from what I have read it probably is not Libertarian- closer to Socialist

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                  Actually Trump has a lot of Libertarian views from what he has expressed during his first month in office. Please educate yourself so you can have an intelligent conversation with people about political parties.

                  You probably say you are Libertarian because they push for individual rights as long as they do not interfere with others or cause civil unrest. They push for individual rights to use drugs that are illegal. That does not mean they are users just believe in individual rights. They actually believe that the population that makes bad choices will actually take care of themselves and leave a better population behind.

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                    Originally posted by Smell the Glove View Post
                    That can't be good no kinda way. [emoji33] Need some sunlight on that mess quickly.
                    Originally posted by XBowHunter View Post
                    You guys go right ahead pretending like the Republicans are fiscally responsible.

                    That's hilarious
                    Folks surely can't believe that. [emoji15] what we have seen over the last 30 years of my adulthood shows increases by any and everybody that has been in power. Just sad!!![emoji20] I have not gotten a crystal ball but based on his speech his numbers are not working.....the moving parts are unsettling. Sure it will be some twists to the budget as it is like making sausage. I hope for massive fiscal success as it solves our social woes pretty efficiently! [emoji106]
                    Originally posted by curtintex View Post
                    I hate politicians.


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                    That sums it up pretty much. Can't wait to get to D.C. next week for hill visits. The vibe should be crazy weird!!![emoji102]

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                      Originally posted by XBowHunter View Post
                      I despise everyone in Congress and every president. There has not been a fiscally responsible government during my entire life.

                      Obama and Clinton actually reduced the deficit. Clinton actually balanced the budget with help of Republican Congress. The rest of everyone was spending like a drunken sailors starting with Reagan.
                      No. Not at all. What are you talking about?

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                        Guys please don't affiliate XBow with the Libertarian Party.
                        Do some research yourself and most on here would be surprised on how many of their stances you agree with. Problem is they have gone about it the wrong way- They are trying to start winning at the top in political elections and they should be starting is small local elections an gaining support and working their way towards the top.

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                          Originally posted by XBowHunter View Post
                          What is trump besides a nationalist? He's **** sure not conservative
                          Truth! May be what WE need in the 21st century.....buckle up for the ride. [emoji6]

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                            Originally posted by Porterhouse View Post
                            It's called a budget, not something democrats and liberals seem to comprehend. Understandable considering the majority don't know where money comes from, and it therefore follows that they can't see how the choices a business, government, or individual makes might dictate the financial success or failure of that entity (see, for example, the state of California).

                            You see, it's possible to make choices on where you spend money. Trim here, so you can spend more there. Get it? Spend less on beer and cigarettes, you have more money to spend on eggs and milk. You can also "find" money by eliminating certain costs completely. For example, you need public assistance because you can't make ends meet - so you eliminate your cell phone, cable TV, XBox subscription etc. So now you have extra cash to allocate to things like a pair of work boots with the added bonus of having extra time to utilize them for their intended purpose.



                            Accountability - it's an incredible concept.


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                            You're a smart man!

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                              Originally posted by glen View Post
                              Guys please don't affiliate XBow with the Libertarian Party.
                              Do some research yourself and most on here would be surprised on how many of their stances you agree with. Problem is they have gone about it the wrong way- They are trying to start winning at the top in political elections and they should be starting is small local elections an gaining support and working their way towards the top.
                              He's not a libertarian, he's not a conservative and he's not a liberal. He's a troll that can't carry on legitimate conversations.

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                                Glen unfortunately this utopian view the libertarian party says it believes in can not exist in a world where greed, hate and lack of personal responsibility exists.
                                Those who individually choose to use drugs will too often choose to use illegal means to acquire those drugs if they don't have the financial means to get them on their own.
                                In no world will all have equal opportunities. And there will always be those who maximize their opportunities through hard work and commitment and those who will not.
                                They preach something that is unattainable and also limit a societal response to those who need correction, punishment and elimination. Allowing a woman to kill a defenseless fetus but society not to eliminate a ruthless criminal. The libertarian philosophy is a pipe dream at best and a socialist facade in reality.

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