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Originally posted by Creedmore View PostFor those that have gone through the Form 1, what are the status changes along the way?
I called ATF this morning to check on my Form 1, and still in the Pending state since June 6.
What's next, will it go straight to approved or are there other steps in the middle?
you should be about 10-20 days away I believe (If I was a betting man)
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Originally posted by Creedmore View PostFor those that have gone through the Form 1, what are the status changes along the way?
I called ATF this morning to check on my Form 1, and still in the Pending state since June 6.
What's next, will it go straight to approved or are there other steps in the middle?
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I have been thinking seriously about getting/making a supressor for my 6.8. I have been reading this thread and it looks like the wait is about 4 months right now....that sucks. I do have a few questions. I see that silencerco has a cheap trust that you can do but I am wondering how safe/thorough it is. I have been reading up a bit on trusts and it seems like you really need your crap straight for it to function correctly ( where the suppressor goes when you die, who can possess it etc ) What are yalls thoughts on the cheap options not actually being done by a lawyer?
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Originally posted by miket View PostI have been thinking seriously about getting/making a supressor for my 6.8. I have been reading this thread and it looks like the wait is about 4 months right now....that sucks. I do have a few questions. I see that silencerco has a cheap trust that you can do but I am wondering how safe/thorough it is. I have been reading up a bit on trusts and it seems like you really need your crap straight for it to function correctly ( where the suppressor goes when you die, who can possess it etc ) What are yalls thoughts on the cheap options not actually being done by a lawyer?
Actually the silencerco trust is one that the ATF has specifically made comments about being trouble ridden.
You would be much better off paying a little more and having a lawyer that is well versed in NFA trusts do it for you.
Sean Cody in Houston and Cole Bryan in Ft Worth are 2 good ones.
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Originally posted by miket View PostI have been thinking seriously about getting/making a supressor for my 6.8. I have been reading this thread and it looks like the wait is about 4 months right now....that sucks. I do have a few questions. I see that silencerco has a cheap trust that you can do but I am wondering how safe/thorough it is. I have been reading up a bit on trusts and it seems like you really need your crap straight for it to function correctly ( where the suppressor goes when you die, who can possess it etc ) What are yalls thoughts on the cheap options not actually being done by a lawyer?
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Originally posted by Quackerbox View PostThe shop I used did the trust for free when I paid for my can. My wait wasn't any longer or shorter than those that paid 400 bucks
EasyTrust: Problems reported David McCleary a Michigan Gun Trust Lawyer written about the problems he has seen with the so called EasyTrust Gun Trust by Silencerco. Today I received an email ...
Do some research.. you're going to want to... a gun trust is not just about getting things approved now.. it's about protecting your loved ones when you pass on.
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Originally posted by Coach W View PostThe problem with gun shop trusts is not long wait times. .. it's down the road when a trust is really worth is weight in gold.
EasyTrust: Problems reported David McCleary a Michigan Gun Trust Lawyer written about the problems he has seen with the so called EasyTrust Gun Trust by Silencerco. Today I received an email ...
Do some research.. you're going to want to... a gun trust is not just about getting things approved now.. it's about protecting your loved ones when you pass on.
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Originally posted by Quackerbox View PostMine was wrote by an attorney who is also a customer. He felt there was no reason for him to make money on people for something so simple. He allows the shop to continue to use it and doesn't ask for a dime.
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Originally posted by Quackerbox View PostHe allows the shop to continue to use it and doesn't ask for a dime.
So what he is saying is that everyone's needs in a trust are exactly the same? Everybody has the same family, living arrangements, for example. . Can your beneficiary be in sole ownership of the items in the trust? At what age can a beneficiary become a trustee.. Or can they? If so can they then add things to the trust themselves.. can you add trustees/beneficiaries? Who has the authority to change or make those decisions? The settlor? A trustee? Beneficary? What's your blanket trust say..
Seriously educate yourself. .. you might be giving away your nfa firearms when you die and not be aware of it: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...s-law-seminar/
ATF correspondence From that link about a "fill in the blank trust" that some lawyer left for free..
"The problem was that some people didn’t actually edit the document correctly. For some people, this created inconsistencies that resulted in the form being sent back. For others, well the form was technically filled out correctly, but probably with a result that was unintended.
Unfortunately, some of the people who used the form for their own trusts neglected to change the “beneficiary” from the original. So that means there’s now some woman in Kansas who is technically the beneficiary of many of these trusts and is set to inherit….I think he said “thousands of” machine guns, silencers, etc."
Lol. Again I'll caution anyone from using one of these cheap/free/fill in the blank trust... it's your money and items (until you die) so do what you want..
Last thing: Having a stamp approved on a trust doesn't necessarily validate your trust.. as pointed out above. Have fun. Call a lawyer versed in NFA laws... Or don't and risk not being covered.
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