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    #31
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other ...John Adams

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      #32
      Originally posted by Gunnyart View Post
      Term limits are a lazy fix. If Vermont thinks a socialist is a good idea they will keep sending him to Washington. Why should I be deprived of being represented by strict constitutionalist based on an arbitrary time frame. We have the vote. Make your case and and exercise it. That is your term limit.
      Same could be said for President. But I think we can all agree that a term limit for a president is a good idea. Just think of having Obama for 8 more terms...which could have happened without the limit. Think of all the "Change" he would do in that time period. Same thought process for Congress in my opinion. I don't think it was meant to be a lifetime appointment, which is what it has basically become.

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        #33
        Originally posted by AZST_bowhunter View Post
        What do you consider to long? He's only been in one term...

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          #34
          Just out of curiosity I google the word Beto.
          beto likes to drink and vape le vale madre todo beto es un desmadre

          The number one answer pretty much sums him up.

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            #35
            Originally posted by LWC View Post
            Do you even research any of this "stuff" or just make it up as you go?
            A quick google search will show you a dozen or more links showing Cruz is definitely in favor of term limits.

            With his calls to “drain the swamp,” President Trump has cast his election victory as a rebuke against career politicians. Now two Texas Republican leaders suggest that the timing is right to impose term limits on members of Congress.


            Last month, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, proposed a constitutional amendment with U.S. Rep. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla., that would limit members of Congress to serving a maximum of three terms in the House and two in the Senate.
            Originally posted by AZST_bowhunter View Post
            What do you consider to long? He's only been in one term...
            Exactly. This is an example of why jerp's comment is true, even though it's senseless that it's true. Most people on both sides are far more invested into the politics of personality and mob mentality than they are actual facts and legitimate ideas and principles. It's frustrating, but that's where we are these days.

            It's not that most people are dumb or incapable. We're just all caught up into mob mentality and tribalism or whatever, and we're not actually thinking critically very often.
            Last edited by Shane; 07-31-2018, 10:42 AM.

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              #36
              No question, conservatives in TX should not fall asleep at the wheel and get out there to vote.

              With that said, I think Beto is more hype than anything. Although TX is still a red state, the press in our urban areas is largely blue.

              I remember when Wendy Davis was running for Governor and the press hyped it to be a close race. She ended up receiving less than 40% of the vote and over 50% of women didn't even vote for her. Hopefully that's going to be the case for Beto.

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                #37
                Originally posted by boy wonder View Post
                I only see O'Rourke as benefiting, but anyone who makes their mind up on a candidate by a political debate shouldn't be voting. And, Ted wipes the floor with Robert!
                Yes, Ted is phenomenal at debates.

                Debates are useful for people who haven't made up their minds yet but are going to vote.

                And for those of you who say Ted isn't worried, haven't been reading his weekly emails. Robert O'Rourke has out raised him on funding.

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                  #38
                  The problem with elections are stupid people get to vote too.

                  There's tests for drivers licenses, gun licenses, education certificates, getting eye glasses... but anyone...can vote for someone to represent the city, county, district, state, country.

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                    #39
                    Trump seemed to do a great job of painting a pretty negative picture of Cruz ...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jer_james View Post
                      Trump seemed to do a great job of painting a pretty negative picture of Cruz ...
                      That was the only play Trump had. Bully the rest of the field. It worked.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by jer_james View Post
                        Trump seemed to do a great job of painting a pretty negative picture of Cruz ...

                        I will vote for Cruz, I did in the presidential primary but my opinion of him dropped way down after the election.
                        Not from anything Trump said but because of what a bad looser he was.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Buff View Post
                          I will vote for Cruz, I did in the presidential primary but my opinion of him dropped way down after the election.
                          Not from anything Trump said but because of what a bad looser he was.
                          I thought Cruz held his tongue pretty well considering what was coming from the other side. He definitely did not stoop to the level of his opponent.

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                            #43
                            bad loser?

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by LWC View Post
                              I thought Cruz held his tongue pretty well considering what was coming from the other side. He definitely did not stoop to the level of his opponent.
                              True. I'm not sure I could forgive/forget my opponent attaching the word "lying" to my name whenever he mentioned me, (while giving no examples of lies) much less if he said my father was involved in a presidential assassination or publicly denigrated my wife's appearance. To his credit, Cruz has gotten on board with Trump's agenda in the areas he thinks it's best for the country..
                              Last edited by jerp; 08-02-2018, 03:00 PM.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by jerp View Post
                                True. I'm not sure I could forgive/forget my opponent attaching the word "lying" to my name whenever he mentioned me, (while giving no examples of lies) much less if he said my father was involved in a presidential assassination or publicly denigrated my wife's appearance. To his credit, Cruz has gotten on board with Trump's agenda in the areas he thinks it's best for the country..
                                Well put

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