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    Garner SP Exotic Archery Hunt

    Anyone else here this week? Orientation is in a couple of hours. I read the other threads about this draw hunt and will give an updated report after this week.

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    Thank you

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      #3
      Originally posted by TXOUTLAW View Post
      Thank you

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      And good luck

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        #4
        Good luck!

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          #5
          I will be there 1/22 - 1/26. I am definitely interested in how your hunt goes.

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            #6
            Good luck ! I put in but did not get picked .

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              #7
              Since there was little to no info on the archery hunt and quite a bit of info on the gun hunt I thought it may be helpful to others to post everything i learned during my week there.

              This was my first year to put in for the draw hunts and i drew this on the second draw because only 1/5 of the guys in the first draw paid to accept the tag.

              Our hunt 12/4-12/8/17 consisted of 3 hunters hunting 5 compartments (map below).

              The week starts out with a short orientation at park headquarters with the park superintendent (David Allen), and 2 other park personnel. David is a bow hunter himself, and was extremely welcoming, helpful, and in my opinion did everything in his power to help us be successful. Following the brief orientation where he covered safety and other rules the park personnel escorted us to the 5 compartments and made sure we understood the compartment boundaries and where the feeders were located. Each compartment had 1 feeder that had been in place for 1-2 weeks to try to help pattern the animals.

              During the tour/orientation we saw quite a few Axis in the compartments and tons of turkeys. The turkeys are not, however, on the menu.

              Following the tour we reconvened back at park headquarters to draw numbers and figure out who would hunt where. Because we only had 3 hunters he gave us the option of figuring out which compartments to hunt on our own.

              After that you are free to hunt your compartment pretty much any way that you choose during legal shooting hours for the remainder of the hunt. It seems that this is where the archery hunt really differs from the rifle hunt at GSP. You hunt with your own vehicle, your own blind(s), your own bait (if you so choose), and without a guide. The only thing they asked is that we let them know when you shoot an animal so that they can help you bring the animal back to the cleaning station (at the front of compartments 2/3).

              All compartments are on the outskirts of the park property and are closed to the public. I envisioned hunting "park deer" that were accustomed to having people around and I think that was where i went the most wrong in my approach. I was hunting compartment 4, which almost never has people in it and as a result the deer were extremely sensitive to smell and human activity.

              Me and the other 2 hunters exchanged phone numbers at orientation (AT&T has service pretty much everywhere in the park area) and created a group text. We exchanged texts quite a bit during the week so we all had a pretty good idea of what was going on in the other compartments as well as our own. Here is what I learned of the compartments:

              1. The smallest compartment. It is triangular in shape, bordered on 2 sides by paved roads, and the river on the other side. The park personnel said it has been the most productive compartment in the past. One of the guys in my hunt changed from Compartment 2 to compartment 1 for the final 2 days and saw Axis, but didn't get a shot.

              2. Bordered by the river on one side and compartment 3 on the other. Loaded with Axis and turkeys. The hunter hunting it had 2 game cams up and saw hogs, turkeys, and whitetail, but didn't get pics of any Axis. He did however jump axis multiple times while scouting and we saw axis in there during the orientation.

              3. Bordered by a paved road, the river, and compartment 2. We saw the most Axis during the week and during orientation in this compartment. It was also loaded with Turkeys. It seemed to have the most options for blind type. There were trees big enough to put a climber in, lots of thick stuck to put a pop up in, and some high areas you could hunt the river bottoms from without a blind. The hunter that hunted here had the most success with a ghost blind setup on busy game trails.

              4. Bordered on one side by a major highway, one side by private land (clearly marked fence), on the other side(s) by mountains. The most remote compartment with the least human development. Park personnel indicated that they see lots of axis hit on the road in front of this compartment and the feeder had the most sign at it of all the compartments. That said, I didn't see a single animal inside it during the week. There are some highway-sized game trails running through it and awesome elevation changes. However, it is very large and you would need a truck to hunt much of it because the roads/trails can be pretty rough. I averaged 3 miles of walking per day hunting it and the day i scouted it i hiked almost 9 miles with 70 floors of elevation climb according to my phone.

              5. Farthest compartment from the park and would likely require a truck to hunt it. If you didn't have a truck it would require a pretty long hike from the front gate up a pretty big incline. There is a pond in it that the park personnel said is the only water around other than the river. There were tons of tracks and some pig wallows at the pond. The feeder is setup in a low area on the biggest game path leading to the pond and you would have options to hunt it from above without a blind. The park personnel indicated that they have seen other exotics here besides just Axis. They specifically mentioned Fallow, Corsican Rams, and Auodad.

              I baited with all of the following and had nothing touch my bait during the week. The park personnel said that Chaffhaye is by far the favorite bait of the Axis and it is available at the local feed store in Leakey.

              Alfalfa Hay
              Molasses
              Chaffhaye (fermented grains, alfalfa, and molasses)
              Livestock Sweet Feed
              Primos Fall Harvest (grains and molasses)

              The hunter in compartment 3 baited with Chaffhaye and at one point had some Axis coming at him from a strong upwind down a game trail and when they saw the Chaffhaye they stomped, snorted, and ran off. He said it was likely that they detected his ground scent, but wasn't sure if the bait made them more nervous or not.

              If I could do this hunt again (and I will definitely put in for it) I would leave my climbing stand at home, bring a ghost blind, and consider bringing a tripod. I hunted the whole week out of my popup brushed in pretty well. It was cold and rainy 2.5 of the 4 days there and the pop-up definitely made that easier. I would enter my compartment a lot more stealthily, would bait and scout a lot less, and would setup with a ghost blind on the most heavily trafficked area I could find without moving around too much.

              All of the compartments other than 1 take some time to get to and to get setup in, so I would definitely plan on hunting all day and take rations for the day accordingly.

              The check-in/out and cleaning station is at the front of compartments 2/3. Since there were only 3 hunters and we were in a group text the park super allowed me to go straight to compartment 4 and check in/out via text with the other hunters. That said, that isn't the norm and he may require all hunters to check in themselves at compartments 2/3 before and after their hunts. For compartment 4 that would mean leaving the park 30 minutes earlier and getting back to the park 30 minutes later at night.

              Note on the map: the lines are more to show the general areas the compartments are in. They are not exact and are free-handed by someone with shaky hands and a sensitive mouse...lol

              Don't hesitate to ask if you have any other questions!
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              Last edited by trek8500xtr; 12-11-2017, 02:30 PM.

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                #8
                Here's the park map with compartments added to it. Also shows where the check-in/out and cleaning station is.
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                  #9
                  So there were only three hunters total for the whole hunt?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mastercraftka View Post
                    So there were only three hunters total for the whole hunt?
                    Correct. 1/5 from the first draw, and 2/4 from the second. He doesn't do alternates for the archery hunt, so if only 3 pay then only 3 hunt. They only do a maximum of 5 per archery hunt.

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                      #11
                      Thanks for the updated information. This hunt is way different than the gun hunts. I like the archery ones better already and never been.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by .270 View Post
                        Thanks for the updated information. This hunt is way different than the gun hunts. I like the archery ones better already and never been.
                        It was drastically different and the park personnel were drastically different than what I read about in the reports on the gun hunts. With this one it was essentially a cool DIY public land archery hunt where you had a parcel all to yourself and could hunt it any way you wanted. I felt like if I had known more and had been a better hunter then I very likely would have been successful.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by trek8500xtr View Post
                          It was drastically different and the park personnel were drastically different than what I read about in the reports on the gun hunts. With this one it was essentially a cool DIY public land archery hunt where you had a parcel all to yourself and could hunt it any way you wanted. I felt like if I had known more and had been a better hunter then I very likely would have been successful.
                          Ya i have never heard much positive about those hunts they must have been talking about the gun hunts??

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mastercraftka View Post
                            Ya i have never heard much positive about those hunts they must have been talking about the gun hunts??
                            Exactly. For the gun hunts they have to close the park completely and have blinds setup throughout the park with volunteers to drive you to and from your blind. You have a narrow shooting lane and can not track your own kills. This archery hunt is as close to the polar opposite of that as possible.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by trek8500xtr View Post
                              Exactly. For the gun hunts they have to close the park completely and have blinds setup throughout the park with volunteers to drive you to and from your blind. You have a narrow shooting lane and can not track your own kills. This archery hunt is as close to the polar opposite of that as possible.
                              ok ya that is exactly what was described.

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