OP.....if you decide to get off this place, I'll trade ya some contact info on another place.
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Originally posted by muzzlebrake View PostBuy your own land. Lease it out to a group of dumb hunters to make the payments. Load it up with sheep and goats that the hunters feed for you because you require them to feed year around. Hunt all their feeders and setups during the week when they are not there. Problem solved! Oh, and there's more money in raising goats and sheep than there are cattle.
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Originally posted by DRT View PostHow deep is the well? Might not be as bad as you think. Couple grand maybe less.
If I'm the landowner, I wouldn't spend that much unless I was using the water for other purposes.
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My lease has electricity, but no water. No problem, I haul a 55 gallon barrel of water out to the lease a few times a year to fill the fresh water tank on the trailer. Now I have hot water and shower. I don't even sweat filling it up. use an electric pump to fill from the back of the truck to the RV. Don't even have the move the 55 gallon drum an inch.
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Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View PostNo, I'm not testy. Tone isn't conveyed well through text. I'm trying to offer advice from my personal experiences. My frustration is not with hunters here. I have hunted in less than desirable conditions, bathed in cisterns in December, etc. BTW, that's freakin' COLD. My frustration is with landowners that allow their places to fall into disrepair and expect hunters to fix and improve the basics when they're charging top dollar. Those that refuse to invest any money back into their property don't get my dollars anymore. I have made things work, froze my butt off, stayed in cabins that rats were scared of but the lease prices were a lot cheaper. These days, I don't have time to set up a village so, if I'm paying $3K to hunt 120 class deer, I should have access to water and elec. The lease I just got off, the landowner would do NOTHING to improve or repair things. He had half mile stretches of fence lying on the ground. We didn't mind helping but he wouldn't buy the wire or t-posts. I've seen this play out too many times, the OP is headed for misery with this guy or a major price increase.
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I think the main point you are missing is you all are already leasing at a discount. If he were leasing at max rates, a hunter may expect some extras. He could lease that for more without electricity or water, and you all are asking for a discount.
However, I would talk to the LO if that is who you made the original deal with. Is there a contract? Was the deal for a certain length of time?Last edited by BrianL; 03-21-2017, 09:11 AM.
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Originally posted by Sika View PostWe will offer to make repairs or pay for repairs If it's a good place and worth the time and money. Making camp repairs and improvements, cleaning up trash piles (even if not yours,) repairing gates (because old ranchers like to repair them with bailing twine )...taking care of a someone's place goes a long way.
If you're paying a reduced rate, consider what the inconvenience is worth to you. When you're paying top dollar, accommodations should be made for the hunters. Help when you can, where you can (within reason) and better the place for your group. Though, it is not the place of the hunters to string a half mile of fence, blade roads, replace a water pump that the landowner won't let you protect from the elements.
My whole point was, if the landowner has been good to them now, he is being difficult, something has changed. He may have problems in his life or he may think he can get a lot more money for the place (which he can). If he is being difficult, it is likely not going to improve and will only get worse. I've seen it too many times. Of course, have a conversation with him to air any grievances but know, it may not work in your favor. Probably won't. If money is the ONLY consideration of the landowner, you will always be at odds with him. He needs to care about his place almost as much as you.
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This is kinda the same deal with us.
LO changed the lease on us and raised the price. So the value from one year to this year is not there. For someone showing up for the first time, the rules and price might be well with in reason.
Basically who is looking at the scenario.
I would take it in a heartbeat at that cost, but my perspective is different from the OP.
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Originally posted by LovinTxHuntin View PostThe hunting ain't all that great on this place but I'm allowed to bring my kids whenever I want and I that's why I like it there.
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