GOP is keeping Obama care.....Job Security

[texansfan]

I don't pay for my healthcare I get that good VA insurance thanks to the operations I served in!! But, when I see my brother paying over 300 a month with a 3500 dollar deductible, or the single mom whose rates went from 150 a month for her and her 5 year old to 500 a month with a 6000 (was 1500) dollar deductible when she works for a company that employs 250K people!!!!! That is total BS..

Now to the funding of my beloved HISD (who my wife works for). I would love to cut my tax dollars from going to any school that does not consistently perform! At my wifes school (which is a title 1 low income school) they get more funding that most schools. Well why is my wife and other teachers having to pull money from their own pockets to pay for supplies for students, I don't mean like pencils and papers, I mean like having to buy entire classroom sets of books to read or do math? Really, where are my tax dollars. What about when the teachers are paying for uniforms and transportation for the school sports teams? Where my money? You can say cancel those sports programs, but then you send these kids home early where their parents don't give a crap about them, they just see them as their ticket to a government check and the next hit from their crack pipe. But, that just runs the risk of those kids joining gangs like MS13. Great. Meanwhile, our superintendent was hired away from San Francisco ISD and make well into the 6 figures, how much do the trustees make that rarely go to work. Glad to see my money is going to a great cause! Meanwhile, she teaches with people who say grades don't matter and they just continue to pass kids. My wife was a first year teacher and when she got her 43 3rd graders only 4 of them had a reading level above 1st grade, thats what I like paying for. But thank god there are some teacher like my wife that have a bit of heart, she worked 12 hours a day and 6 days a week (only 5 hours on saturdays) doing extra tutorials, generally every morning two days during the afternoon then every saturday. They are suppose to get extra pay for working over time, she was only paid for 4 hours of overtime though.... because of "funding issues". Wheres my money?

maybe it is going to schools like waltrip high school that are way over budget and over a year late on its remodel? Same with lee high school, oh I mean "wisdom high school" because robert e lee was a racist, that cost a few hundred grand......

theres better ways to do things, we gotta figure it out. I know throwing more money at a money pit isnt the answer...

LoL

See, we're on the same team man
We have the same gripes
Your issues with HISD are mine
Spend millions building new schools but the schools have no books or other supplies in them

Admin getting paid $$$$ but teachers get crumbs

All I'm saying is how can you be for Universal Education (forced funding via property taxes and federal income taxes) but you're against Universal Healthcare which would be enforced by federal income taxes?

I don't understand it.

You teach a kid to read but you'll let him die of whooping cough or polio.

Where is the logic in that???

Some of us pay 3.5% property taxes which 1/3 of that goes to fund Universal Education (HISD) but we still pay to have our kids educated in private schools.

Why not do the same for health care?

[flywise]

I don't pay for my healthcare I get that good VA insurance thanks to the operations I served in!! But, when I see my brother paying over 300 a month with a 3500 dollar deductible, or the single mom whose rates went from 150 a month for her and her 5 year old to 500 a month with a 6000 (was 1500) dollar deductible when she works for a company that employs 250K people!!!!! That is total BS..

It does not matter how many people a private business enploys...it should never be a requirement to pay for healthcare

Now to the funding of my beloved HISD (who my wife works for). I would love to cut my tax dollars from going to any school that does not consistently perform! At my wifes school (which is a title 1 low income school) they get more funding that most schools. Well why is my wife and other teachers having to pull money from their own pockets to pay for supplies for students, I don't mean like pencils and papers, I mean like having to buy entire classroom sets of books to read or do math? Really, where are my tax dollars. What about when the teachers are paying for uniforms and transportation for the school sports teams? Where my money? You can say cancel those sports programs, but then you send these kids home early where their parents don't give a crap about them,

Big problem in America and will not be solved as long as the gov. pays people to stay home to do nothing


they just see them as their ticket to a government check and the next hit from their crack pipe. But, that just runs the risk of those kids joining gangs like MS13. Great. Meanwhile, our superintendent was hired away from San Francisco ISD and make well into the 6 figures, how much do the trustees make that rarely go to work. Glad to see my money is going to a great cause! Meanwhile, she teaches with people who say grades don't matter and they just continue to pass kids. My wife was a first year teacher and when she got her 43 3rd graders only 4 of them had a reading level above 1st grade, thats what I like paying for. But thank god there are some teacher like my wife that have a bit of heart, she worked 12 hours a day and 6 days a week (only 5 hours on saturdays) doing extra tutorials, generally every morning two days during the afternoon then every saturday. They are suppose to get extra pay for working over time, she was only paid for 4 hours of overtime though.... because of "funding issues". Wheres my money?
People like your wife are a blessing...and I would not be surprised if a day comes where no one want to do that job. Its unapprciated by too many parents and management
maybe it is going to schools like waltrip high school that are way over budget and over a year late on its remodel? Same with lee high school, oh I mean "wisdom high school" because robert e lee was a racist, that cost a few hundred grand......

theres better ways to do things, we gotta figure it out. I know throwing more money at a money pit isnt the answer...

.

[flywise]

LoL .

See, we're on the same team man
We have the same gripes
Your issues with HISD are mine
Spend millions building new schools but the schools have no books or other supplies in them

Admin getting paid $$$$ but teachers get crumbs

All I'm saying is how can you be for Universal Education (forced funding via property taxes and federal income taxes) but you're against Universal Healthcare which would be enforced by federal income taxes?

Look at ANY country that has universal health care and you will find that more people die of the things you worry about while they wait for months for treatment....gov. HC is it self a death panel. There is plenty of evidence for anyone who cares to look it up
I don't understand it.

You teach a kid to read but you'll let him die of whooping cough or polio.
That does not happen in America, no hospital refuses treatment
Where is the logic in that???

Some of us pay 3.5% property taxes which 1/3 of that goes to fund Universal Education (HISD) but we still pay to have our kids educated in private schools.

Why not do the same for health care?

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[Livin'2hunt]

LoL

See, we're on the same team man
We have the same gripes
Your issues with HISD are mine
Spend millions building new schools but the schools have no books or other supplies in them

Admin getting paid $$$$ but teachers get crumbs

All I'm saying is how can you be for Universal Education (forced funding via property taxes and federal income taxes) but you're against Universal Healthcare which would be enforced by federal income taxes?

I don't understand it.

You teach a kid to read but you'll let him die of whooping cough or polio.

Where is the logic in that???

Some of us pay 3.5% property taxes which 1/3 of that goes to fund Universal Education (HISD) but we still pay to have our kids educated in private schools.

Why not do the same for health care?

Because it is not the Government's purview to do so. I have the RIGHT to life, LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness. Your favorite polotician sticking a gun in my face and forcing me to purchase something I do not want is not the definition of Liberty. Feelings play no role in Rights.

[texansfan]

Because it is not the Government's purview to do so. I have the RIGHT to life, LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness. Your favorite polotician sticking a gun in my face and forcing me to purchase something I do not want is not the definition of Liberty. Feelings play no role in Rights.

So that means you're against Universal Education too, correct?

Why are you not trying to repeal that 1.1% our whatever amount of property tax it is that goes to fund HISD (I don't know where you live but a portion of your property taxes goes to pay for Universal Education in your school district)

If you don't help pay to fund your local school district then the govt will take your property from you (unpaid tax line sale)

Why isn't anyone fighting to repeal that tax?

Illegal alien babies are being educated with your tax dollars there as well.

[Ironman]

So that means you're against Universal Education too, correct?

Why are you not trying to repeal that 1.1% our whatever amount of property tax it is that goes to fund HISD (I don't know where you live but a portion of your property taxes goes to pay for Universal Education in your school district)

If you don't help pay to fund your local school district then the govt will take your property from you (unpaid tax line sale)

Why isn't anyone fighting to repeal that tax?

Illegal alien babies are being educated with your tax dollars there as well.

So by your way of thinking, we should allow anything to be passed and just suck it up. Screw We The People and all that. Socialism is awesome in your utopian world I guess.

[texansfan]

So by your way of thinking, we should allow anything to be passed and just suck it up. Screw We The People and all that. Socialism is awesome in your utopian world I guess.

You're going too far.
You're taking my two items and extending it to Infiniti.
I don't support much of what goes in the Farm Bill but I think everyone under 16 should be taught to read, write and do simple math problems. I also think everyone from birth to death should be afforded quality health care.

I don't want you needing to wait until your stomach cancer turns to stage IV before you show up at the ER to get treatment

[Livin'2hunt]

So that means you're against Universal Education too, correct?

Why are you not trying to repeal that 1.1% our whatever amount of property tax it is that goes to fund HISD (I don't know where you live but a portion of your property taxes goes to pay for Universal Education in your school district)

If you don't help pay to fund your local school district then the govt will take your property from you (unpaid tax line sale)

Why isn't anyone fighting to repeal that tax?

Illegal alien babies are being educated with your tax dollars there as well.

Mostly, yes. I see my kids going thru a public education system that is dumbed down to such a low denominator that most kids cannot read, write, spell or recount history of any sort. When I see mismanagement like that, it is time to stop the bleeding.

If public schools were run by the Government, my theory of Government inefficiency would be solid.

Oh, WAIT....

[texansfan]

Mostly, yes. I see my kids going thru a public education system that is dumbed down to such a low denominator that most kids cannot read, write, spell or recount history of any sort. When I see mismanagement like that, it is time to stop the bleeding.

If public schools were run by the Government, my theory of Government inefficiency would be solid.

Oh, WAIT....

You're full of hot air and all words with no action.
You're not proposing nor going to start a campaign to end universal education.
It takes gumption to do that.

It takes gumption and lobbying to get universal healthcare passed.
And we have Obamacare today.
And it's not going away just like universal education is not going away.

You can't even get more that 50% of voting Republican citizenry to fully repeal Obamacare.

So all that means is those that are rallying against it are yelling for the sake of yelling.

Don't give me some song and dance about Dem obstructionist.
It's REPUBLICANS who are not voting to fully repeal it because that's what their constituents want.....to keep Obamacare.

Politicians stay employed because of complainers
You complain to your elected official and he promises you he's working hard to get you what you want.
When in actuality he sat on his hands for seven years and now it's GAMETIME and he shows up to the meeting unprepared and without a presentation at all making you and him look foolish.


Lastly, how do you propose to "stop the bleeding" of the public education system?

[Ironman]

You're going too far.
You're taking my two items and extending it to Infiniti.
I don't support much of what goes in the Farm Bill but I think everyone under 16 should be taught to read, write and do simple math problems. I also think everyone from birth to death should be afforded quality health care.

I don't want you needing to wait until your stomach cancer turns to stage IV before you show up at the ER to get treatment

It's not afforded health care, it's mandated and that's the problem. It's a scam on the citizens of this country. When something is mandated, the price will automatically go up, as has been witnessed, and will continue to rise because no one has a choice but to comply........one way or another. That's not liberty! That's not what this country is suppose to be about. It's socialism, pure and simple. History has already taught us about socialism.

[Livin'2hunt]

You're full of hot air and all words with no action.
You're not proposing nor going to start a campaign to end universal education.
It takes gumption to do that.

It takes gumption and lobbying to get universal healthcare passed.
And we have Obamacare today.
And it's not going away just like universal education is not going away.

You can't even get more that 50% of voting Republican citizenry to fully repeal Obamacare.

So all that means is those that are rallying against it are yelling for the sake of yelling.

Don't give me some song and dance about Dem obstructionist.
It's REPUBLICANS who are not voting to fully repeal it because that's what their constituents want.....to keep Obamacare.

Politicians stay employed because of complainers
You complain to your elected official and he promises you he's working hard to get you what you want.
When in actuality he sat on his hands for seven years and now it's GAMETIME and he shows up to the meeting unprepared and without a presentation at all making you and him look foolish.


Lastly, how do you propose to "stop the bleeding" of the public education system?

Full of hot air, huh? Principles may not be your gig but to me, they are paramount so, don't go judging me with the idiocy you spew around here. You are all over the map with your "views" because you are grounded in nothingness. Reading your posts is like watching ping pong on bath salts . You stand for what's best for you and you don't give a furry rat's a*s about your neighbor's plight despite your soap box preaching. Follow the money and we'll find you there like a little leprechaun sitting on his pot of gold. Money isn't everything to me but consistency is. Also, I know you haven't paid attention to one freakin' thing I've ever written because I cannot remember the last time I wrote or uttered the word "Democrat". I have stated from the outset, Republicans are as much of a problem as liberals and that's why Trump won. I didn't even vote for the guy and I recognize that. People tired of the status quo. Everyone that is but you. Pay attention, bro and if you choose to label be (which will be difficult), correctly label me.

The first step to stopping the bleeding is a voucher system that will create competition among Districts and cap sports budgets and salaries of administrators. In addition, utilize an outcome based pay system for teachers and untie their hands, curriculum-speaking. If you think that is hot air, you are high on Lucky Charms.

[texansfan]

Full of hot air, huh? Principles may not be your gig but to me, they are paramount so, don't go judging me with the idiocy you spew around here. You are all over the map with your "views" because you are grounded in nothingness. Reading your posts is like watching ping pong on bath salts . You stand for what's best for you and you don't give a furry rat's a*s about your neighbor's plight despite your soap box preaching. Follow the money and we'll find you there like a little leprechaun sitting on his pot of gold. Money isn't everything to me but consistency is. Also, I know you haven't paid attention to one freakin' thing I've ever written because I cannot remember the last time I wrote or uttered the word "Democrat". I have stated from the outset, Republicans are as much of a problem as liberals and that's why Trump won. I didn't even vote for the guy and I recognize that. People tired of the status quo. Everyone that is but you. Pay attention, bro and if you choose to label be (which will be difficult), correctly label me.

The first step to stopping the bleeding is a voucher system that will create competition among Districts and cap sports budgets and salaries of administrators. In addition, utilize an outcome based pay system for teachers and untie their hands, curriculum-speaking. If you think that is hot air, you are high on Lucky Charms.

Are you not reading my posts???
I'm saying I'm financially secure and have no problem paying for me and my family's education or health care.
I am saying my neighbors may not be so fortunate so therefore I have no issue with paying a bit more in taxes so that everyone that needs Warfarin can get the drug free of charge (well of course our tax dollars paid for it).

You're saying that if an adult is too poor to pay for a script of Lisinopril then tough luck. Let their blood pressure rise to really high levels so they get a stroke or heart attack before they present themselves to the ER where they will get treatment that way.
But instead of a $13 prescription, tax payers are now on the hook for a $130k hospital stay and possibly higher long term costs because this patient is now so jacked up they will go to ER more frequently.

These are the types of scenarios I associate costs with everyday. So the govt and health insurance companies try to find ways to keep people as healthy as possible so they don't need those $130k hospital stays (especially if to prevent it all the person needed was a $13 genetic drug prescription)

How will a voucher system fix the entirety of the public education system? How will a voucher system fix HISD?
So my kid is zoned to go to the Yates high school in HISD but I'm going to take my voucher and send my kid to St Thomas because it's ranked better?

Then you have a school like Vanguard. High performing but they don't even have a sports program. There is no carrot to dangle in front of them to get better if they already don't have sports.

You're typing like a person that hasn't right things through.

Even Betsy DeVos who was a huge proponent of the voucher system in local politics is walking back from the voucher system now that she's on the national level.

Why is that?

Furthermore, you can't penalizea teacher for their students lack of performance because if you get a classroom full of students whose parents have dollar signs tattoos on their necks, are MS13 members or cook meth as a part time job then your chances of your kids having good testing scores are pretty much zero.

So, you'll already be tilting the scales to teachers at more affluent schools.

Again, things need to be thought through.

Ask any teacher if their pay should be tied to their students testing performance. LoL
Drain the swamp of teachers then, right??

[Livin'2hunt]

You cannot be reasoned with. You haven't retained anything I have ever posted. I wrote, certainly the truly indigent and working poor should be cared for as long as they are free of drugs and alcohol. That's what welfare IS. The problem is, we already have it and you keep missing that point. Now, you want to Nationalize 1/5 of the U.S. economy and make people who may not be able to afford it, pay more for what they already had so others may pay less or nothing at all. All of that is done at the point of a gun. You haven't answered anyone, including me, when we asked about our Right to Liberty. What you want isn't Liberty or compassion. IT IS MARXISM.

As for the schooling issue, you are obviously not in business for yourself. Competition drives the World. When competition is eliminated, mediocrity thrives. Walk into any DPS office and have your day ruined by any of the lovely people in there. Another example; when I was in high school, we had 6 cheerleaders and there were tryouts to make that team. The ones that made it were attractive and athletic. Now, there's 40 cheerleaders per team and half of them are 200 pounds and can't see their feet. Competition waned, mediocrity thrived. I've explained all I will. If you cannot understand any of this by now, I wish you luck in life.

[RiverRat1]

You're going too far.
You're taking my two items and extending it to Infiniti.
I don't support much of what goes in the Farm Bill but I think everyone under 16 should be taught to read, write and do simple math problems. I also think everyone from birth to death should be afforded quality health care.

I don't want you needing to wait until your stomach cancer turns to stage IV before you show up at the ER to get treatment

How did he go to far?

If we cave on healthcare what's to stop people like you who make money in housing to say that people having a home to live in is more important than having healthcare so we better buy them all houses?

[Traildust]

Good job to the few Republicans that chose to stand with their voters and go against the status quo. Now repeal this horrible, freedom stripping legislation known as Obammycare!

All you other lying back sliding rinos, we're watching.