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    #61
    Originally posted by super_dave View Post
    Ok, so I'm supposed to board a boat in Venice next Sunday and head offshore. What are the odds this storm messes that up?
    I'm fishing out of Houma Friday and Sunday and then heading to Venice for Mon-Wednesday.

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      #62
      Still alot in play on this system, I kinda see a weakness in the ridge to the west that COULD possibly pull it west into Texas. Several possibilities right now, the Euro has been fairly consistent from the beginning so I would definitely pay attention to that model. The GFS runs have trended west and while it isnt anywhere close to the Euro it says something...so until we get a little farther along and get some good data from recon flights its a toss up. Anyone along the gulf coast needs to keep an eye on it. I dont see a hurricane out of this but if it stalls or slows way down its not out of the realm of possibility. We have seen systems explode in the GOM and also dissipate to a rain shower as it approached the coast so its gonna be a waiting game. Welcome to the 2017 season!!

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        #63
        Monday morning update from Jeff Lindner..

        Tropical storm likely in the Gulf of Mexico this week…a threat to the US Gulf coast

        Discussion:
        Disorganized tropical wave axis across the eastern Yucatan into the southern Gulf of Mexico this morning has shown little evidence of becoming any better defined overnight. Surface wind analysis shows more of an elongated trough axis than any sort of surface low. Deep convection has been firing across the western Caribbean waters much of the night, but this is well east of the sharp trough axis. The trough has become slightly better defined near the northern coast of the Yucatan where models have been suggesting for days a surface low will form.

        Additionally, the upper trough over the NW Gulf of Mexico continues to produce strong shear across the central Gulf and the northern portions of the tropical wave axis. Deep tropical moisture is quickly advancing northward across the eastern gulf.

        Track:
        While it has been most frustrating watching the most reliable global weather forecasting computer models there is a slow but steady growing consensus on the track of this system. The complicated setup of steering flow across the Gulf of Mexico is the reason for the large spread in the model guidance with each model having its particular favored choice of which atmospheric circulation will ultimately drive the system toward the US Gulf coast. These factors include:

        1) A trough over the northern Gulf coast which is fracturing and will form a weakness or upper level low over the western Gulf
        2) Building sub-tropical high pressure ridges from both the SW US and the SW Atlantic.
        3) A trough of low pressure over the Great Lakes

        It is becoming more defined that the dominant steering pattern will evolve around the fracturing and development of an upper level low over the western Gulf of Mexico over the next 24-48 hours with 93L moving northward along the eastern flank of this large scale circulation. In fact there is enough evidence in the model guidance to suggest these two circulations actually interact more and more creating varied solutions. There is general agreement that the sharp trough axis will drift WNW today with a surface low likely forming somewhere within the northern portion of this axis and moving generally N to NNW along the eastern side of the developing upper trough over the western Gulf. This motion will continue on Tuesday as the system moves into the central Gulf of Mexico, but track guidance then becomes split with the GFS tracking 93L NNW toward southern Louisiana while the ECMWF turns 93L almost due west and toward the middle TX coast by Thursday. The CMC is down the middle tracking the system toward the upper TX coast by Thursday. The key to the track will be how much influence the developing upper trough over the western Gulf has over the developing surface low.

        There is enough consensus this morning to suggest that the threat for a landfalling tropical storm on the Texas/Louisiana coasts sometime from late Wednesday into late Thursday is likely.

        Intensity:
        93L is highly disorganized and the atmospheric setup in the Gulf of Mexico does not look very favorable for intensification. Tropical cyclones can and at times do interact with upper level troughs like the one which is forecast to be in the western Gulf this week. The surface low on the eastern side of the large scale trough must find its way into the favorable venting portion of the trough or shear will have a negative effect on the surface low. What is interesting is that several of the global and now meso scale models show such a shearing environment across the central Gulf and then actually show decent upper air conditions as the system nears the coast. Both the high resolution NAM and CMC show a fairly symmetrical system in their 54-84 hours time periods while the GFS and ECMWF show a much more elongated and lopsided presentation.

        Several Gulf of Mexico tropical systems have formed in this manner and the end result is almost always a flood event somewhere along and east of the track of a broad ill defined center.

        Impacts:
        Will raise seas on Tuesday to 3-4 feet across our 20-60nm waters with NHC forecasting 8-12 feet approaching our outer waters on Wednesday. Increasing tides will be possible as early as Wednesday, but will keep them below 2.0 feet total water for now. Addition of larger easterly swell onto the coast on Wednesday will likely start to pile up the water to some degree. It would seem that rain chances need to be raised to at least 50% late Wednesday and this may need additional adjusting upward. Don’t want to get much more specific with impacts at this point until either there is some guidance from NHC or the model track solutions firm up more. A track of the system toward Louisiana would result in a fairly dry and hot forecast for our area while a track toward the TX coast would result in a certainly more wet forecast.

        Significant forecast changes may be required for the Wed-Fri period.

        Persons along the TX/LA coasts should closely monitor the progress of 93L and be prepared for adverse conditions to potentially begin impacting the coast as early as midday Wednesday.

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          #64
          Wont sniff the gulf boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            #65
            The latest Euro that came out is spinning this thing up as a major tropical cyclone with the "dirty" Northeast quadrant making landfall around Port Aransas. Starting to get a bit alarming if models continue to trend this direction. Even the GFS is trending west of NOLA now.

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              #66
              They're thinking the ridge in the Western gulf is starting to break down which will bring the storm this way.

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                #67
                Following

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Montec man View Post
                  They're thinking the ridge in the Western gulf is starting to break down which will bring the storm this way.
                  Yup, thats exactly what im seeing. Its all about timing!

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                    #69
                    In for some wisdom and rain.

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                      #70
                      Crap were leaving for Venice on Thursday morning.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by bauce302 View Post
                        Wont sniff the gulf boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Welcome back!! Now kindly stand on the sidelines and watch how these guys work

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                          #72
                          Come on Johnny update us please

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                              #74
                              Hurricane Hunter is headed out there this afternoon to check it out. I'll be listening to the state conference call tomorrow.

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                                #75
                                Its amazing what 5 days of sun and 90+ degree temps will do to the ground. We were still wet from the last round of rain last week where i couldn't run the tractor and now the ground is cracked. bring on the rain

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