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Originally posted by Clay C View PostIf people understood that their really isn’t a problem to begin with we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Don’t listen to the news. Their job is to scare you. Tragic and horrible as they may be, there isn’t a mass shooting problem In this country.
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Originally posted by Clay C View PostIf people understood that their really isn’t a problem to begin with we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Don’t listen to the news. Their job is to scare you. Tragic and horrible as they may be, there isn’t a mass shooting problem In this country.
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By That Logic...
Originally posted by Clay C View PostIf people understood that their really isn’t a problem to begin with we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Don’t listen to the news. Their job is to scare you. Tragic and horrible as they may be, there isn’t a mass shooting problem In this country.
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Originally posted by TeamAmerica View PostWho said anything about mass shootings? This was post about backgrounds checks. Care to contribute anything? Or are you saying we have zero gun violence problems to deal with and roll back all background check laws? I'm confused on your position.
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Every news organization, in case you have been asleep or dead this whole conversation revolves around the background checks being called for just after the El Paso shooting and Dayton Ohio.
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Originally posted by TeamAmerica View PostWho said anything about mass shootings? This was post about backgrounds checks. Care to contribute anything? Or are you saying we have zero gun violence problems to deal with and roll back all background check laws? I'm confused on your position.
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Because of mass shootings in Texas and Ohio.
Over reacting to his post as if he isn't contributing anything is silly and technically his post didn't have the word mass shootings in it, although yours did.
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Originally posted by Landrover View PostPer the thread title.....yep, all bets are off based on the adminstrations previous actions. Deeper checks are on the horizon as other nefarious actions.......all in the name of safety for our children!
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Originally posted by iamntxhunter View PostWhat previous actions are you referencing, bump stock?
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Originally posted by TeamAmerica View PostWho said anything about mass shootings? This was post about backgrounds checks. Care to contribute anything? Or are you saying we have zero gun violence problems to deal with and roll back all background check laws? I'm confused on your position.
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The whole entire reason the conversation is being had in DC is because of mass shootings. The media and politicians are using them to push agendas.
My position is more of a question. What is there that could be fixed in the background check system that would solve or prevent anything?
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Originally posted by donpablo View PostI understand where you’re coming from but by the same logic, we don’t have a terrorist problem and shouldn’t be sending troops out to fight terrorism. I’m not sure I agree.
Fair point. I will say I’m much more concerned about big brother than terrorist.
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Originally posted by Clay C View PostThe whole entire reason the conversation is being had in DC is because of mass shootings. The media and politicians are using them to push agendas.
My position is more of a question. What is there that could be fixed in the background check system that would solve or prevent anything?
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Worth a read & along the lines of what I've been saying...we do not have a gun, background, red flag problem. We have societal issues that need to be addressed, but I don't see how the nation is even remotely ready to accept it as the problem & even less likely to to start the discussion / dialog of losing our moral fiber regardless of any religion aspect one would accept or deny. Too many politicians simply use the tragedies as an opportunity to attack liberties & pursue the agenda of gun control.
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First steps would be to prosecute for the laws already on the books. First thing that comes to mind are felons and prohibited persons attempting to buy a firearm at a dealer, and failing the background check. That is not an accident. If you are a felon you know you cannot legally own a gun, they will attempt because there isn't any backlash for trying.
Several times in my life I have seen obvious ex cons with their girlfriend as "she" makes a purchase while he stands right there telling here what to buy. Straw purchases are a big problem.
Enforcing laws already on the books seems to me to be more effective than passing more laws that may or may not be enforced.
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Originally posted by Landrover View PostYes, that would be the most obvious. But not forgetting the promises and meetings about following through on lifting trophy import bans and nominating a Interior Secretary that would carry the banner of our hunting heritage. I am definitely hoping for the best but not overly optimistic.
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