No brow tine bucks

[lovemylegacy]

Have several bucks on our place that are 4 pointer with no brow tines. Most of them are 2.5 with only a couple being 3.5. Would you let the 2.5 ones walk to see if they get better or cull them out? I definitely feel that we need to cull out the 3.5 ones. By that age, they should have brow tines.

Does the lack of brow tines devalue them some kind of way?

[2good2Btru]

Does the lack of brow tines devalue them some kind of way?

No. I just thought that was a trait that you could potentially get rid of. But after a lot of research, it's almost impossible to do so in a low fence property.

[Jmh05]

I wish more people saw it this way.


A baby freak with a crap rack is still just a baby.

I'd rather cull a 3.5 yo for a meat buck than a 1.5-2.5 yo that carries a lot less grindable body mass than his younger brethren.

I totally agree. We can't keep our lease hunters from slaughtering yearlings through 2.5yos. On my side of the ranch we have a 4.5yo minimum.

Look at breeding efficacy- immature deer are not going to successfully breed hardly anything. No reason to kill them, they are not contributing greatly to genetics.

[texashunter56]

I totally agree. We can't keep our lease hunters from slaughtering yearlings through 2.5yos. On my side of the ranch we have a 4.5yo minimum.

Look at breeding efficacy- immature deer are not going to successfully breed hardly anything. No reason to kill them, they are not contributing greatly to genetics.

There have been studies that prove that statement wrong. Any buck in the herd is involved in the breeding. Any buck in the herd will only breed between 1-2 doe per year on average.

[WItoTX]

Have several bucks on our place that are 4 pointer with no brow tines. Most of them are 2.5 with only a couple being 3.5. Would you let the 2.5 ones walk to see if they get better or cull them out? I definitely feel that we need to cull out the 3.5 ones. By that age, they should have brow tines.

Personally, I like the no brow tine look, so I would keep them. However, if you don't want that look, probably start at the 3.5s, and find the daddy with the bad genetics in the first place.

[El Perron]

[QUOTE=WItoTX;12101873]Personally, I like the no brow tine look, so I would keep them.

I agree

[Jmh05]

There have been studies that prove that statement wrong. Any buck in the herd is involved in the breeding. Any buck in the herd will only breed between 1-2 doe per year on average.

Any links to these studies? I'd like to read them.

[88 Bound]

There have been studies that prove that statement wrong. Any buck in the herd is involved in the breeding. Any buck in the herd will only breed between 1-2 doe per year on average.

Interested to ready this study as well. So a 2 yr old buck breeds the same amount of does as a 5 yr old buck? I personally don't agree with that logic but who knows, I may be missing something.

[gingib]

dang that sucks!!!

G1's are the most inheritable trait so you my friend are SOL I think. The best you can do is shoot as many of the smaller ones with no brows as you can and let the normal G1 bucks live a long life of breeding.

I think its hopeless but don't give up. I am glad we have bucks with tall G1's.....helps the score alot

[Deepwoods]

My son shot a buck with no brows this year. I was targeting that buck and was glad to see him go. I see another with almost the exact rack on camera from time to time. I feel it's genetic to at least a handful of bucks in my area. If this other youngster with no brows crosses my path I would take him out as well.

[texashunter56]

Here is a link to a recap of some studies done in 3 states...

http://www.tecomate.com/content/index.php/site/comments/whos_breeding_whom_part_ii

[Top Of Texas]

Any links to these studies? I'd like to read them.

Due to my computer technological limitations, I couldn't figure out how to link only the article on the topic. However, it is on this list. Additionally, any deer hunter will find a plethora of wonderful and interesting info on deer stuff.

http://www.msudeerlab.com/mobile/publications.asp

The study I assume Texashunter is refering to was initially lead by Miss State University and included deer populations from Miss, Okla, and S TX.

[Jaredlee264]

If that deer is 4.5 I'm passing on him. If he is 5.5 I'm taking him as a management buck.


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[Brbc1969]

Absolutely shoot em

[locknload]

He still is a good buck. Get ir done.