Can't hit what you can't see, I cut cost on a rifle brand before I would a scope. Just my opinion.
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I've never heard a bad thing about Vortex until the day I bought one. Still waiting for it to come in the mail but what is the story? Are they bad or what. I honestly always had heard they were great. Now I'm hoping I'm not gonna regret it!
FYI- Vortex Viper 4-24-50mm and yes I will draw my own conclusion but still want to know of any horror stories! LolLast edited by Arrowslinger1; 12-03-2015, 02:29 PM.
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Originally posted by Arrowslinger1 View PostI've never heard a bad thing about Vortex until the day I bought one. Still waiting for it to come in the mail but what is the story? Are they bad or what. I honestly always had heard they were great. Now I'm hoping I'm not gonna regret it!
FYI- Vortex Viper 4-24-50mm and yes I will draw my own conclusion but still want to know of any horror stories! Lol
There's plenty of Vortex discussion to choose from on here. Do a search.
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Originally posted by Ivanite View PostThanks this is all good information. If I up the price. Thoughts on Leupold vs Zeiss. What about between 42 vs 50mm. I'm only planning to shoot out to no more than 4-500 yards. If I go with 20 power how easy would it be to shoot out to 600 effectively?
I'm my experience here's how Leupold & Zeiss stack up:
3) Zeiss Conquest
2) Leupold VX-3
1) Zeiss HD5
Now that's only comparing glass. When you start talking features and available options Leupold wins hands down.
As to 42mm vs 50mm, divide the objective diameter by the magnification and keep the ratio at a 4 or higher. For example:
50mm/20X = 2.5
42mm/20X = 2.1
So for low light the 50mm is the better choice for higher magnification. To determine max usable magnification divide the objective diameter by 4 to see what the max magnification you can effectively use in low light.
50mm/4 = 12.5X
42mm/4 = 10.5X
Hope this helps.
Btw IMO you can NEVER go wrong going with better glass if you can afford it. I always recommend buying the best glass you can afford. Bells & whistles like Bullet drop reticles, exposed dials, first focal plane all sounds cool but the average hunter has no use for it. So I would sacrifice all of that for better glass. All the other stuff does you no good if you can't see your target.
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Originally posted by Mike D View PostI'm my experience here's how Leupold & Zeiss stack up:
3) Zeiss Conquest
2) Leupold VX-3
1) Zeiss HD5
Now that's only comparing glass. When you start talking features and available options Leupold wins hands down.
As to 42mm vs 50mm, divide the objective diameter by the magnification and keep the ratio at a 4 or higher. For example:
50mm/20X = 2.5
42mm/20X = 2.1
So for low light the 50mm is the better choice for higher magnification. To determine max usable magnification divide the objective diameter by 4 to see what the max magnification you can effectively use in low light.
50mm/4 = 12.5X
42mm/4 = 10.5X
Hope this helps.
Btw IMO you can NEVER go wrong going with better glass if you can afford it. I always recommend buying the best glass you can afford. Bells & whistles like Bullet drop reticles, exposed dials, first focal plane all sounds cool but the average hunter has no use for it. So I would sacrifice all of that for better glass. All the other stuff does you no good if you can't see your target.
Thanks. That's great info. Exactly what I was looking for. I get so lost reading the books and articles (stereo instructions). I'll see what I can find and post a pick when I get it built.
Thanks everyone.
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I just put a zeiss hd5 5-25x50 with the rapid z8 reticle on my 7 mag and I love it. Crystal clear, tracks accurately and did I mention Crystal clear. I hunted with it for the first time this past weekend and I was very impressed. 600 yards with that scope would be a walk in the park. But it's a little over double of what your budget is. This is my first higher end scope and I see and understand why people always say not to skimp on good glass. Now I just got to figure out which model I want to put on my 6.8spc ar. Still debating between a hd5 3-15x50 or a trijicon 2.5-10x56. I've always liked the idea of the trijicon for my ar.
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Originally posted by Ivanite View PostThanks this is all good information. If I up the price. Thoughts on Leupold vs Zeiss. What about between 42 vs 50mm. I'm only planning to shoot out to no more than 4-500 yards. If I go with 20 power how easy would it be to shoot out to 600 effectively?
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Do some review research...you will be pleasantly surprised!
Snagged a Sightron for a 22-250 BDL 700
And snagged a Vortex for a 223 AR 15 Rock River bull barrel varminter in 20"
A Sightron SII 4.5-14X50mm scope with EXACTRACK - MSRP $499.00
or
A Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16x 42mm Side Focus for $329.00
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