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    #46
    I don’t think that you can spend enough taxpayers’ money to “harden” the schools sufficiently.

    If a shooter has as accomplice, it is almost impossible.

    There some strategies that might lessen the murdere (8 dead instead of 20) but not a person that has time and planning on his side.

    In fact you can completely lock a school down and not stop a person willing to do it.

    The biggest chance to stop them is in the planning stage, not at the point of attack.

    Taking tips and follow up more aggressively might help stop some incidents, if you get that tip which can be from a student, a healthcare professional, etc.

    And then what about private schools that don’t have the funding by being able to take their way into action?

    IMO

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      #47
      This is terrible and I don’t know the answer. I do know you can’t hire enough cops to staff every school. Fewer and fewer signing up to fill the spots we already have, much less thousands more.

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        #48
        Originally posted by MagicBlade View Post
        This! Metal detectors at the main doors!


        Been working at the airports against terrorists for the last few decades


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          #49
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            #50
            The best thing you can spend on a kid is time.
            No way in the world this kids parents were involved in his life, that they did not know what was going on in his world. No effin way. Kids from solid families just do not do this.

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              #51
              Every school need to be more secure. The questions i have and still have not seen the answers is How did these kids get the guns into the school? Imo every school needs armed guards equipped with Automatic rifels and if a shooter survives they need to be publically executed within 30 days regardless of their age. This will slow down the nuts. Until this happens and the media continues to glorify theses cowards it will happen again.

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                #52
                I am saddened by this event in my home town.
                Blake has made a good point but this is the real truth. "Until they put metal detectors up at schools & gun free zones, or actually block off the area and search everyone going in, nothing will change." Fact!

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                  #53
                  Only way to stop theses shootings is to let CHL holders carry on school property and require 65% of the teachers to do the same. Problem solved over night.

                  The Anti-gun LWL's who demanded gun free schools when CHL permits first came out knew, and was hoping for, gunmen to shoot and kill school children at their gun free schools just so they could further their anti-gun agenda.

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                    #54
                    I'm a teacher. I've been using guns all my life but I don't have a ltc and don't want one. I'd do it for my school though, ASAP. Arm a teacher. They will be the first responders.
                    Last edited by Kossetx; 05-18-2018, 06:21 PM.

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                      #55
                      I have been through lots of meetings with state police, engineers, and safety specialist about making our school safer. Pretty much a consensus if someone is willing to die, you cant keep them from attacking at a school. Best you can do is limit the damage. I believe with proper training, staff should be allowed to carry. I gladly would. Post around the buildings the staff has that option. I think that would discourage the cowards, no more shooting fish in a barrel. And if there was an event, a quick resolution may be possible

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                        #56
                        30 years ago kids had access to guns and schools were less secure than they are now but, school shootings basically didn't happen. Turning schools into prisons doesn't fix the underlying problem or keep anyone safer in the long run

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                          #57
                          the punishment does not fit the crime in this country !!!! examples need to be made of dritbags that do this crap . the government can give millions sometime billions of $$$ to third world crap holes on a regular basis but refuse to secure our schools and children. its to easy to blame it on the TOOLS they use . I`ll bet that the prison system in every state has a bigger budjet than the school systems . go figure !

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by keng View Post
                            I have been through lots of meetings with state police, engineers, and safety specialist about making our school safer. Pretty much a consensus if someone is willing to die, you cant keep them from attacking at a school. Best you can do is limit the damage. I believe with proper training, staff should be allowed to carry. I gladly would. Post around the buildings the staff has that option. I think that would discourage the cowards, no more shooting fish in a barrel. And if there was an event, a quick resolution may be possible
                            Correct.

                            It is ludicrous to think you can stop a determined person with no time frame. A person on a whim like a fit of anger? Sure. Time to plan? No way.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by BigWes View Post
                              While I'm not opposed to the public hanging, these kids who do this don't give a crap about the consequences. You think they don't know there's a good chance they are committing suicide by cop? Most of them have been marginalized their entire life and weren't able to fight back at any point so they are going to take down as many as they can when they decide to end it all themselves. They know they're going to get attention, even if they die in a shoot out. A public hanging would be the same effect - notoriety and revenge in the same swipe.
                              Agree. Public hangings would deter you and I but not the twisted individuals that are killing defenseless children.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by RJH1 View Post
                                30 years ago kids had access to guns and schools were less secure than they are now but, school shootings basically didn't happen. Turning schools into prisons doesn't fix the underlying problem or keep anyone safer in the long run
                                Turning schools into prisons would keep guns off campus.
                                But, it would not prevent shooting.off campus.
                                Problem can typically be traced back to the home

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