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Originally posted by Chasing_bone View PostThis is dependent. If you want your dad or your son or _______ to use your suppressor when you are not present then a trust is a must. Now if you don't want/don't have anybody to share it with then yes a trust is not needed.
Disagree with your trust statement. There plenty of good reasons for a trust, mainly estate planning.
Originally posted by BigJimmyRustler View PostI think you answered your own question.
I'd look into getting one or two cans (pistol, .30, .22 can) or a can and an sbr, AR prices are currently so low that you can have a solid quality SBR for cheaper than ever and the new bar-code system combined with BATFE getting past the pre-41f pile of stamps means dramatically reduced wait times on the horizon.
also, just a heads up that now that we're post 41f trusts are no longer the best route to go.
Originally posted by Clay C View PostI'd definitely go the individual route.
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No wife or kids?
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Originally posted by Mike D View PostDisagree with your trust statement. There plenty of good reasons for a trust, mainly estate planning.
No wife or kids?
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Nope. Single no kids. Only people I know that would want to use them can buy their own crap! Haha
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Originally posted by Mike D View PostDisagree with your trust statement. There plenty of good reasons for a trust, mainly estate planning.
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I totally agree with you. I was just saying there are reasons to have a trust.
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Originally posted by Sika View PostIf I had $1500 just burning a hole in my pocket I'd spend it on a Swarovski Z5 3.5-18x44 but you said "gun" so...I think the Ruger Hawkeye FTW Hunter in 6.5 CM is an awesome rifle for the price.
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Originally posted by Clay C View PostNope. Single no kids. Only people I know that would want to use them can buy their own crap! Haha
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Originally posted by BigJimmyRustler View Postalso, just a heads up that now that we're post 41f trusts are no longer the best route to go.Originally posted by Chasing_bone View PostThis is dependent. If you want your dad or your son or _______ to use your suppressor when you are not present then a trust is a must. Now if you don't want/don't have anybody to share it with then yes a trust is not needed.
If you go individual, when you die, whoever gets your cans gets to buy $200 stamp for each one. If you go trust, they become the trustees' with no transfer fee at all. Trust wins 8 days a week.
Originally posted by Clay C View PostLet's say I have a spare $1000 sitting around. I don't really have any NEEDs to fill, just want. (although I don't have any SBR's or Suppressors yet )
Would prefer long gun over handgun. Would prefer 5.56 or 9mm.
What would you buy for 1K? I will stretch to say, $1500 for the right gun.
5.56, 300BLK, and 6.5 Grendel in AR15 starting at $700 something
7.62, .260, and 6.5 Creedmoor in AR10 starting at $1100 something
Both variants come with the option to buy a LaRue suppressor for only $399.
6.5 Grendel in 18" config:
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Originally posted by 35remington View PostIt's a question of whether there will ever be a time when, for example (1) the suppressors are at home, (2) you are not home, (3) someone else is at home, and (4) that person has access to the cans. So, if you have a wife who knows the safe combo, and there's a time when you won't be home but she will be, you're putting her in jeopardy of being in possession of a suppressor not registered to her. Likely to be enforced often? Nah. Felony if so? Abso-effing-lutely. Trust solves this problem with ease.
In my situation as well as the OP's and many others situations a trust simply isn't the best route to go (especially post 41f as I stated). For some it may be YMMV though.
That Larue kit looks like a **** good deal, gonna look into it and see if I can't pick one up for myself. Thanks for the heads up on that.Last edited by BigJimmyRustler; 09-09-2017, 12:17 AM.
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Originally posted by BigJimmyRustler View Postcan you reference one case of this happening?
In my situation as well as the OP's and many others situations a trust simply isn't the best route to go (especially post 41f as I stated). For some it may be YMMV though.
That Larue kit looks like a **** good deal, gonna look into it and see if I can't pick one up for myself. Thanks for the heads up on that.
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Originally posted by 35remington View Post
If you go individual, when you die, whoever gets your cans gets to buy $200 stamp for each one. If you go trust, they become the trustees' with no transfer fee at all. Trust wins 8 days a week.
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Originally posted by M16 View PostNot true. There is no $200 transfer fee upon inheritance.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/tr...tates/download
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Originally posted by trophy8 View PostLets say you rustle the wrong jimmies next week and someone carts you off and dumps you in a lake. Now all your NFA stuff will be left with your family. If you had a trust then bam done. All would be fine and no extra paperwork or hassle would be needed. If you DONT have a trust, your family, on top of crying and pouting, or cheering in some families, will have to go through all hoops to mke sure they are legal. If a LEO wanting to be an arse about it and they didn't know, it could get them into some serious trouble. ANd while a court may throw it out, itll still be a pain and cost a lot of time and money. So I will ALWAYS tell someone to just pony up a few hundred bucks for a good trust done by an attorney that specializes in it, not one of the quickbooks ones....and set your wife, kids, brothers, uncles, whoever is on there up for a pain free transfer in the event something happens to you.
I don't have any kids and I if I kick the bucket my one $700 dollar .30 cal can is gonna be the last thing my wife gives a crap about lol. You sound like someone who works in sales with the hypothetical sensationalized feels story not based in reality to complete an up sell while making the process seem way more difficult than it is and that there's a chance some county cop is gonna show up shoot my dog and throw my wife in jail.
Not every person has the same circumstances lol. Some people finance cars for 60 months, some people cut a check, some people lease. One option isn't more right than the other.Last edited by BigJimmyRustler; 09-09-2017, 10:27 AM.
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I see no benefit for me to do a trust. I've never had a problem back in the day getting a leo signature so all my stuff is in my name. If I do a trust it will cost me around $3000 just for an individual to trust transfer for 15 or so items. If I kick the bucket my stuff transfers tax free to whoever I will it to. Am I missing something?
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