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Sleepy 07-06-2018 09:48 AM

Eco Boost or 5.0?
 
About to hop into another truck and wanted everybodyís opinion on the two. Heard great things about both.

150class 07-06-2018 09:52 AM

When I did all my research before grabbing mine it was pretty even at 50/50 on opinions for going eco or 5.0.

I ended up going 5.0 and have been plenty satisifed. Imagine if I went eco I wouldn’t be feeling much different either.

Good luck on the new truck

Flex 07-06-2018 09:53 AM

Man, this should be a good thread!

Ecoboost- more fun to drive, possible better fuel economy if you can keep your foot out of it. Driving experience can take some time to get used too. Also more potential for problems.

5.0 - Rock solid, reliable, slightly less fuel economy, V8 rumble, less performance if you want to drive a truck like a hot rod.

My dad has had both in 4 door lariat. Prefers the EcoBoost because of better fuel economy and said it was more fun to drive.

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jdn79 07-06-2018 09:53 AM

I have the 5.0 in a 2017 crew cab. No complaints yet at 20k miles. Avg 18.5 mpg

ballgame 07-06-2018 09:54 AM

Cant go wrong with either.

I have a 2012 3.5L Eco that I bought new in June 2012

135,000 miles and no issues so far

tx_basser 07-06-2018 09:55 AM

I bought a 2015 with 2.7 Eco back in March and I have to say.. it has been wonderful. It tows the bassboat like it was not there, towed my jeep wrangler on a trailer with ease, great mpg, etc. I don't think you will go wrong with either one.

LlanoHunter10 07-06-2018 09:57 AM

I love my 3.5 ecoboost. 365 horses AND 420 torque! No problem pulling a decent trailer and gets up to speed quickly on the entrance ramps. I average 18 mpg with 33 inch all terrains. I was getting 20 with stock tires.

hogman$ 07-06-2018 09:57 AM

i have a 5.0 and like it just under 100,000 miles not a single problem and it dont sound like a rice burner

30-30 07-06-2018 09:58 AM

Happy eco boost owner here. Mpgs could be better but that may be a result of how fun the truck is to drive. ;)b I get 15-17 mixed city and highway at 75+.

My only complaint is a little shake/vibration at idle that multiple shops have told me is normal.

MagicBlade 07-06-2018 10:00 AM

I have a 2011 F150 4x4 with the EcoBoost 3.5L V6 with 136,520 miles and average 18 - 19 mpg.
Love it, pulls my camper and trailer with ease.

44mAG 07-06-2018 10:08 AM

I have a 2013 Eco boost with around 55K miles on it with no issues. Not impressed with the mpg but that's not why I bought it. Average around 14.5 mpg. I do have a 6.5' bed, 4x4 with the max gears and max tow package though. Also have leveling springs on the front, brush guard, plus bigger than stock tires. Love the truck.

tmurray 07-06-2018 10:11 AM

I saw the same mileage as 44mAG, about 14.5 mpg in my 2014 EcoBoost. Was a fun truck to drive though, it was fast. I hear the new ones are way better on fuel economy.

Ryanm 07-06-2018 10:12 AM

I just bought a 2018 3.5 and it has been great. 21mpg on the highway and tons of power.

My only suggestion would be to stay away from the older EB models that didn't have the new dual fuel injection setup. When I was researching, there were many reports of issues with carbon building up on the valves causing issues. That being said, it's not guaranteed to be a problem.

BuckSmasher 07-06-2018 10:19 AM

I vote Eco, especially if you tow a lot.

SeaSpray 07-06-2018 10:22 AM

5.0 all the way. I have a 2013 with 165,000 with only a few minor issues that have been addressed on the newer models. 5.0 is solid with 15-18 mpg with a leveling kit, extra leave springs on the back, 285 tires and replacement bumpers on front and back. My opinion is the eco boost has too many bells and whistles and not designed for any modifications

Pineywoods 07-06-2018 10:26 AM

Both great engines... I have always been a V8 guy but I've had my ecoboost for over a year and love it.

skinsfan 07-06-2018 10:31 AM

I have a 2018 5.0 with 8000 miles and am not too impressed so far. MPG are 15-16 90% highway and it lacks much get up and go. The transmission is rough to say the least and hard shifts on a regular basis but it may be a lemon.

Pineywoods 07-06-2018 10:35 AM

The ecoboost engines create a good amount of power. Even the little 4 cylinder 2.3l ecoboost in the base Mustang's produce 310hp and torque is 350@ 3000rpm.

aggie182 07-06-2018 10:36 AM

I have a 2016 2.7L Eco. It's a 4 door, 4wd, XL. It's a commuter 90% of the time. I've taken through some super sold sand on the beach and offroaded to several kayak fishing launches. It's been fine in the limited mud it's seen. No complaints so far. I haven't reset one of my trip meters and it's at 21.2 mpg over 38k miles. The other trip meter is at 21.5 over the last several thousand miles. I don't tow, I don't do anything too wild in it. It's pretty much a dad-mobile to get the family to the beach and where ever else we want to go whether on or off the pavement.

mzurovec 07-06-2018 10:41 AM

I'd go with Eco. Lots of get up compared to the 5.0 I have now.

mzurovec 07-06-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan (Post 13470115)
I have a 2018 5.0 with 8000 miles and am not too impressed so far. MPG are 15-16 90% highway and it lacks much get up and go. The transmission is rough to say the least and hard shifts on a regular basis but it may be a lemon.

I've had a very similar experience. Mine only has 3200 miles, but I'm averaging 15.5. I liked the Eco I had before much better.

samson33 07-06-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaSpray (Post 13470095)
5.0 all the way. I have a 2013 with 165,000 with only a few minor issues that have been addressed on the newer models. 5.0 is solid with 15-18 mpg with a leveling kit, extra leave springs on the back, 285 tires and replacement bumpers on front and back. My opinion is the eco boost has too many bells and whistles and not designed for any modifications

The eco has tons of mods available.

BowSlayer 07-06-2018 11:08 AM

Good thread. I was going to post the same question and found this one. I'm going back to a F150 when I sell my Cummins.

ckamp52 07-06-2018 11:09 AM

I had a 3.5 eco and loved it. pulled trailers very well. Probably would still have it if my needs hadn't changed. We have a few at work and for the most part they have been reliable. I keep my trucks a long time and honestly got a little worried if I towed as often as I was with decent load for a half ton it would not hold up. It may have lasted couple hundred thousand miles for all I know but repairs can get expensive in a hurry when its not a naturally aspirated engine. Same reason I went with the 6.2 in my F250 vs the diesel. Miss the power sometimes but it does what I need it to do and hopefully wont have the repair bills that come with those new diesels once they are out of warranty. just using the fuel system on the 6.7 as an example is over 10k. My dad has had several ecos and went back to a 5.0 this time and says he likes it and gets decent mileage but liked the eco better when towing or loaded down with anything

Reelthreat 07-06-2018 11:09 AM

I had a 2015 work truck with the 5.0 and my personal is a 2015 Eco. I prefer the Eco by far... not even a comparison. Nothing wrong with the 5.0 but the Eco is fun to drive.

Gary Roberson 07-06-2018 11:16 AM

The Robersons have three different 3.5 Ecoboost engines in three FX4 models. No problems in any of them and mileage is around 18 on the average if I don't drive 75-80 mph. I pull an enclosed trailer that weighs 5,000 lbs. empty with no problems. I also put mine in more rugged country than any of you will ever see unless you hunt lions in the Navajo Nation.
Adios,
Gary

Drycreek3189 07-06-2018 11:17 AM

The 2012 5.0 I had got 16.5 mpg and I sold it at 180k with very few issues. Biggest thing was O2 sensors and that was after 160k.

The 2018 gets 19.5 to 20 mpg. I should clarify that on the road with no idling it gets 21/22 mpg. It pulls my Ranger on a heavy 12' trailer plus 1,000 lb. of corn with no problems. It gets around 14mpg doing that.

No experience with the Eco-boost other than when I bought the 2012 my dealer advised against it.

Rcm 07-06-2018 11:24 AM

have worked for ford for 9 years as a tech, eco boost will get good mileage if you stay out of it you drive it hard the mileage goes way down, dove a 18 5.0 4x4 to ford training in Lewisville got over 20 mpg the week I drove it, eco boost come in a lot with misses do lots of tune ups.

hope this helps good luck on your choice.

txpitdog 07-06-2018 11:25 AM

2015 3.5EB with 78k. So far so good. Not so much as a hiccup, and the low rpm power band is great for fun and towing.

quackadikt 07-06-2018 11:25 AM

What kind of towing capacity do the ecos have?

gmac 07-06-2018 11:45 AM

I had a 2013 5.0, sold it and got a 2013 eco boost. Both were/are 4x4 crew cabs. I got better fuel mileage in the 5.0 by a little better than 2 mpg. Personally I enjoyed the V8 more just sounded like I was driving a truck. No real complaints about the eco boost, just isn’t for me and I don’t really see the advantage to it.

oldtestamentman 07-06-2018 11:52 AM

I've got a 2013 eco boost. A little shaky idle when I start up in the mornings.
MPG is excellent 19-21 if you can stay at 70 mph at 1,900 rpm
MPG drops allot once you go over 75, and 2,000 rpm to 14-16.
Lots of passing power when you need it.
Since I learned to stay under 70 mph, I've been getting over 450 miles per tank.

Rcm 07-06-2018 11:57 AM

Eco has more towing capacity than the 5.0

SaltwaterSlick 07-06-2018 12:02 PM

I had a '13 Platinum Super crew with the 3.5 ecoboost... It was an OK truck but I never could get used to the "hesitation" in that EB engine... When you roll out to go around someone, you got to plan ahead because there's a hesitation/time between when you mash the pedal and the computer tells the turbos to wind up and the injectors send the fuel to the engine... I put 156K miles on it, orderd a '18 King Ranch initially with another EB engine, then switched at the last minute to the 5.0 V8. Got it last October and have 32K miles on it so far... For me personally, it is a MUCH better drive train. You mash that naturally asperated V8, and that sucker goes... no hesitation, and I'm getting better gas mileage with the 5.0 than I did with the EB. I am VERY glad I got the V8. I pull a trailer with a Honda Pioneer on it and gear. I also have a 10 foot dump bed 6 yard trailer that I haul dirt, rocks, sand, mulch and such. Have a 20 foot lowboy that I haul my 57 HP John Deere tractor w/loader and various implements on the back. Have an Alumacraft 18-60 rigged for bowfishing on a trailer. This truck does a very good job with all of that. If I ordered another one today, It would be the 5.0 and NOT the EcoBoost.

Edit to add: I espeically like the 10 speed tranny that this '18 has. The '13 EB had a 6 speed and when running with cruise, it was constantly downshifting whenever there was an incline... annoying to the point I didn't use cruise when pulling any kind of trailer... The 5.0 with the 10 speed tranny is nice.

Mudslinger 07-06-2018 12:03 PM

2014 5.0 4x4 Super Crew that will flat haul butt when needed and it ain't no slow poke anywhere on the road or in town. I do not know about mileage as mine goes from over to 17 to under 11 depending on how I am driving or what I am loaded with or towing. Never bought a vehicle for mileage so I really do not care what mileage I get as long as it gets me there and back.

When I bought this truck in 2014, the Eco Boost had been out for 3 years as had the 6.0 diesel I bought in 2006. Spent $12,000 on the 6.0 so I was not about to do that again with the Eco Boost, never even drove one as I had my mind already made up when I started looking. Maybe a mistake, but I am very happy with my '14 5.0!

jimmyneutrontx 07-06-2018 12:20 PM

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rferg84 07-06-2018 12:28 PM

I have the 3.5 Ecoboost in a 2018 Expedition, itís a stud.

Iíve had the 5.0 in an F-150, it sounds a lot better.

Both got the jobs done. I was against the EB for a long time but itís pretty nice.

30-30 07-06-2018 02:03 PM

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BETTERLUCKYTHANGOOD 07-06-2018 02:15 PM

My GF owns a 3.5 EB, it isn't a bad truck, just a lot of moving parts (twin turbos and all). I tried to talk her into the 5.0....simpler power train. That is the way I look at things being a mechanic. Both will tow, both will get about the same mileage, 5.0 sounds like a real truck.
Now if you go with the 3.5 EB the first thing you want to do is install a vapor separator in the PCV system. This will keep the back of the valves cleaner, it's an issue that the 3.5 has, ford knows it, they get big$$$$ to do the repair. I did it on my GFs truck at about 9000 miles.

James 07-06-2018 05:32 PM

My 5.0 gets better mileage then my buddies eco with same size tires, mine has 150k miles no major problems. J-Bone on here just hit 250k miles on his 2013 5.0 with no major problems. The 5.0 has been best truck I've ever owned

Sleepy 07-06-2018 05:58 PM

Thanks fellas. Sounds like the simpler motor that will do anything and everything I need to do with a 1/2 ton will be the 5.0.

Appreciate all the opinions!

kumathebear 07-06-2018 06:27 PM

I may have had a Lemon, but not my problem anymore. Some may recall the various threads I put on asking for advice so here's the basics:

2013 Ford King Ranch with the Eco engine. LOVED the truck and look but right around 70K miles, here we go...sudden loss of power, engine light on, scared the hell out of me since I'm retired now.

Had it repaired, repaired again...drove great for a day or two and here we go again. Finally had 2 Ford mechanics, one on TBH, tell me they had seen a LOT of problems with this year model and also seen engine replacements less than 150K miles? They BOTH told me, in all fairness, that models after 2013 were much better but did not help me.

Got rid of it and happy with my Tundra now. I know, we all can have great rides, but there is always one and with me it was the Eco in this year model. NOT bashing, just my experience. Oh....this particular ECO engine had lot's of power until I had to tow my 16' Tandum with a Crew UTV...still had response but averaged less than 10MPG...but again...not just the Eco. Tundra MPG sucks but it has all the power I need in the 5.7.

Cantcatch5 07-06-2018 06:28 PM

I couldn’t decide when I went to buy mine in 2015. The dealership had two identical trucks, other than the engine, that I was interested in. I test drove both and the 5.0 sounded much better but the EB was noticeably quicker and more fun to drive in the “seat of the pants” test. I ended up buying the Ecoboost because eventhough it had the higher sticker price they would sell it to me for less.

I have 32,000 miles on it and have had no problems with it at all. It is fun to drive and tows like a beast!

hopedale 07-06-2018 06:44 PM

I got the ecoboost in my 2017 Expedition. Really impressed with the gas millage in town and on the road.

Now, when I trailer my boat it does take a bit of a dive, but still happy with the engine.

futureagg 07-06-2018 06:50 PM

I just bought a 2018 5.0v8.
My thoughts so far:
V8 has plenty of power
Put bigger tires on it with 3.31 gearing and I am still getting 18mpg in Houston.
The auto start/stop technology in all of the new F150s is a real pain in the ***

I liked the V8 more when I drove them back to back comparing the 3.5 eco and the v8.


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Mike D 07-06-2018 07:46 PM

Either one of them are well up to the task that most folks would do. MPG wonít be different enough between the 2 to even discuss.

As to power, the ecoboost has noticeably more pull in the lower RPM range and the 5.0 loves to rev.

Both of them have between 370-395HP. Anyone that says either one is slow is just silly.



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Artos 07-06-2018 07:51 PM

I'm digging the new company 5.0...the A10 is really nice & getting upwards of 600 miles out of the 36gal tank which is nice. Only had it since late March but already have 22k miles.

Coming from the 6.0 2500, it is VERY nice to have a truck than can pass without needing a landing strip.

BMAC_GTX 07-06-2018 08:25 PM

I had a 5.0 and traded it for a 3.5 EB. Both had leveling kits and 34" tires with custom tuning. I liked the 5.0 until it came to towing anything. It makes all it torque much higher in the RPM band and was always downshifting, even hills without towing. The EB on the other hand never downshifts and tows much better. The 5.0 had 3.55 gears and the EB has 3.73. The turbos are fun!

LetsGetBloody 07-06-2018 08:29 PM

I really like my 5.0 I like KIS and figured since I drive one to around 300k I’d have less things to go wrong. Sounds good when you crank her up and hear that soft rumble!

bps3040 07-06-2018 08:36 PM

I have both. No problem with either. 190,000 on 5.0 and 90,000 on Eco boost


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