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LuBowhunter 08-10-2017 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by krisw (Post 12640035)
Are the deer bodies larger in west Texas? I know that most of the racks seem to be. I'd try to find some place that got cold enough to kill mosquitoes during hunting season.



Deer bodies and racks are typically bigger in east Texas in my opinion. Also think about this smaller body (west Texas) makes the rack appear bigger than it is.

pilar 08-10-2017 06:49 PM

East Texas is the only place in Texas they have rules on how many inches a buck must be before harvest, if it is brown it's going down country, same thing with Duvall county in south Texas horrible but true

Burntorange Bowhunter 08-10-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LuBowhunter (Post 12640409)
Deer bodies and racks are typically bigger in east Texas in my opinion. Also think about this smaller body (west Texas) makes the rack appear bigger than it is.

Thanks for the laugh. ;)b

West Texas deer....north of Abilene are as big bodied as East Texas deer with bigger and wider racks and they are waaaaaay more plentiful. It can be just as hard hunting as East Tx, well not really but harder than the Hill Country. Now by West as in San Angelo they are like Hill Country deer........but a bit larger.

flywise 08-10-2017 06:59 PM

West of I35 would be my preference but i have come to enjoy east Tx hunting

gunnut 99 08-10-2017 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by White Falcon (Post 12640399)
"No Deer In East Texas"

So go West

bryan sandlin 08-10-2017 07:07 PM

for me, if I had the chance to drive 5 hours vs 1.5 from Houston I make the drive. nothing like pulling up to your campsite to find some of the locals have been there mid week and helped themselves to almost all of your stuff. or cut a tree down across the road to stop you from getting to your stand. lets say 10,000 acres. two camp sites. 55 people each. well that's a good nights sleep for sure. hill country has what I want.

Drycreek3189 08-10-2017 07:09 PM

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Poor old ETex hunters !:(

Drycreek3189 08-10-2017 07:11 PM

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Ain't it a shame !

d_e_smith 08-10-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by texashunter56 (Post 12640088)
:eek: Are your serious?????? :D



Why not? You have a guy pampering them for the neighbors...might as well get in on that like everyone else. :D

d_e_smith 08-10-2017 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189 (Post 12640487)
Poor old ETex hunters !:(

Let's be a little more realistic.

AntlerCollector 08-10-2017 07:29 PM

I hunt in East and West Texas. If you're not a truly dedicated hunter that starts preparing for the upcoming season in February then East Texas may not be good to you.

There's not much more to add to this thread. I agree with everything GarGuy has stated. There are bigger deer in East Texas. They are just 1000 times harder to hunt.

Drycreek3189 08-10-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by d_e_smith (Post 12640542)
Let's be a little more realistic.

Yeah, we got our freaks too ! Some of them are even deer !:D

Here's a poor old skinny, pencil necked freak !

Death from Above 08-10-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by White Falcon (Post 12640399)
"No Deer In East Texas"

This guy is in East Texas and has bigger deer in his neighborhood than 80 percent of hunters will ever see on the hoof....

East Texas is hunting and if you can consistently kill deer here...then you can do it anywhere.

West Texas is shooting.

;)b

d_e_smith 08-10-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189 (Post 12640567)
Yeah, we got our freaks too ! Some of them are even deer !:D

Here's a poor old skinny, pencil necked freak !



Looks like a coastal telephone pole. Probably ruts in Aug/Sept.

pilar 08-10-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by d_e_smith (Post 12640542)
Let's be a little more realistic.

The truth really don't look good ;)b

Abcdj 08-10-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by krisw (Post 12640292)
Do you hunt around Paris? It seems like it rains up that way a lot more than where I am at.

Op, ask yourself this. Do you want to hunt or shoot? That's kind of what it sounds like people are getting at.

Nope we are west of Wichita Falls 30 minutes.

Hoss163 08-10-2017 08:11 PM

What are you calling west is the question? What county's are you looking at ?

pilar 08-10-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Death from Above (Post 12640570)
This guy is in East Texas and has bigger deer in his neighborhood than 80 percent of hunters will ever see on the hoof....

East Texas is hunting and if you can consistently kill deer here...then you can do it anywhere.

West Texas is shooting.

;)b

Blah blah blah :cool: you guys in that neck of the woods, are all foot work and no yardage!!! All this talk and not much on photos ;)
Like I said earlier I really don't want to drive to some place that requires more time, money, effort for less results just seems counterproductive

Abcdj 08-10-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoss163 (Post 12640642)
What are you calling west is the question? What county's are you looking at ?

Now that is a whole different question:D

If you live East of 35 then West of 35 is West Texas.

If you live West of 35 then prolly a line from W. Falls to Abilene to San Angelo is Central Texas .

Anything West of that is West Texas.

I am from Abilene and to me that's the start of West Texas.

Puncher51 08-10-2017 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoss163 (Post 12640642)
What are you calling west is the question? What county's are you looking at ?

I think this is the biggest question of them all. To some people anything west of Abilene and Angelo is West Texas. When I lived in Lubbock everyone called it West Texas because it is in the western part of the Panhandle.

Big bodied deer in the Northern Rolling Plains and Panhandle. Pockets of big bodied deer west of Abilene and Angelo.

Death from Above 08-10-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pilar (Post 12640646)
Blah blah blah :cool: you guys in that neck of the woods, are all foot work and no yardage!!! All this talk and not much on photos ;)
Like I said earlier I really don't want to drive to some place that requires more time, money, effort for less results just seems counterproductive

I could kill a deer every sit...

The thing is, i hunt Alot. I live spending time in the woods yearound.

And i dont post pics anymore because people are prone to do really stupid stuff over deer

d_e_smith 08-10-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189 (Post 12640567)
Yeah, we got our freaks too ! Some of them are even deer !:D

Here's a poor old skinny, pencil necked freak !

They're just inbred and weird here, when you can find that magical unicorn we call a deer.

Sometimes they grow them down


Sometimes they mess up and grow them straight out. Bunch of misfits!

BuckChaser 08-10-2017 08:55 PM

My East Texas lease price has been going up for years. I may just start hunting public land with a trip to Missouri and Kansas once a year. I used to be able to hunt East Texas for less than 500 a year. Now it's a grand. Best deer I've taken at our lease top right. 147https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ac6b293ad8.jpg

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sqiggy 08-10-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pilar (Post 12640646)
Blah blah blah :cool: you guys in that neck of the woods, are all foot work and no yardage!!! All this talk and not much on photos ;)

There's a reason we don't post our pics!!!:rolleyes:

Tex1986 08-10-2017 09:02 PM

I'd go west. No deer in east texas[emoji4]


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Grady_jones 08-10-2017 09:04 PM

East Texas has some very nice deer but they don't come in numbers and are very hard to hunt. West Texas everyday you will see so many more animals.

Hoss163 08-10-2017 09:09 PM

If I was you and was planning on driving 6 hours to the west I would just find a place in Mexico to hunt a lot of deer and some big ones as well

d_e_smith 08-10-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sqiggy (Post 12640753)
There's a reason we don't post our pics!!!:rolleyes:

***disclaimer for photos: all deer were harmed in the posting of those pics.

Bayouboy 08-10-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 12640182)
Totally agree. If you havent read YEAR IN THE LIFE OF A FARM thread by Elgato. Go read it. That will show you what East Tx can do..

Elgato is also doing it on private land. No worries of a timber company driving in at anytime and clearing everything you worked for. He does do an awesome job.The majority of hunting leases in East Tx are timber company land. You are basically playing Russian roulette when you join a timber company lease. Also, the soil in East Tx is no where near the rich soil he has in La. I know because I grew up in that area.


If you can get on a East Tx privately owned lease that is the way to go and less risky.

hogslayer78 08-10-2017 09:24 PM

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I love hunting the piney woods. I have been leasing our property for 7 years and always kill a deer or 2 every year. Always have a couple 130's and a 150 or two running around. Yes it is harder hunting, some people like it and some don't. There are no deer in East Texas:D

BolilloLoco 08-10-2017 09:25 PM

It just depends on your personal preference. I'd rather drive 6 hours and see deer every hunt than drive 30minutes to see zero deer over the course of a weekend. Only way I would pay to hunt a piece of property with a pine tree on it, would be with a tall fence around it.

d_e_smith 08-10-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BolilloLoco (Post 12640853)
It just depends on your personal preference. I'd rather drive 6 hours and see deer every hunt than drive 30minutes to see zero deer over the course of a weekend. Only way I would pay to hunt a piece of property with a pine tree on it, would be with a tall fence around it.

I'm the exact opposite..no pines and I lose interest easily. Had a 320ac place to hunt for free 20 minutes from San Antonio for several years..hunted it once, saw deer, had a lot on camera, would rather drive 6hrs East (and did most weekends)

Smart 08-10-2017 09:45 PM

East TX vs. West TX leases
 
West Texas proud here for 10 years.

To me...a deer lease is about so much more than inches or lbs..... but West Texas has a nice amount of both. The entire experience is what I look for.

I like seeing deer... even if I don't trip my release all year on a "monster". I enjoy watching deer as much as I enjoy shooting them. I don't hunt to watch birds (turkeys are OK[emoji51].) Seeing deer is fun ...killing several deer a year is even more fun..

I love the people out west. They are a friendly bunch and laid back as a whole. The egos are checked at the gate.

I like the large leases and low members counts. I like leases where the deer herd health/numbers are more important than keeping the cost of the lease fee down. 7 hunters on 2400 acres of oak and mesquite is so much enjoyable than 25 folks on 800 acres of pines with 10 white oak trees. Less folks equals less problems and more deer for everybody.

I love the dry heat.... I also love the dry crisp mornings during winter. I love the lack of mosquitos and bugs in general. Rats and mice are also rare at our place.

I like all my **** to be there when I arrive at the lease. I like being able to leave stuff at my lease and know it's going to be there when I drive up. Hauling back what I have at my lease each trip would be a major PITA. Replacing it all because some methhead stole it would be even more of a PITA.

I like not having pictures of poachers and hog doggers. I like not having my hunt ruined by the guy on his 5 acres next door practicing for World War 3.

I love the smell of burning mesquite and ribeyes searing over it.



I hate..... the drive. .. especially on Sunday.

I hate 105 deg workdays in the summer.

I hated the 2010-2011 drought

My loves and likes far outweigh my hates though....

Did I say I love seeing deer?

skipetex 08-10-2017 09:55 PM

I've lived in ne Texas all my life. Started hunting south of Sweetwater 8 years ago and now don't hardly bother hunting my own 125 acres behind my house

AddisonOil 08-10-2017 09:58 PM

There are no deer in west Texas. Please don't come, it ain't worth it! All we got is small body, tiny antlers, and they are tough to come by... ain't worth the drive!

Etxbuckman 08-10-2017 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jooger17 (Post 12640245)
Ask yourself a series of Questions.

Are you the kind of hunter that needs to see deer every sit? Yes=West No=East

Are you going to be badly disappointed if you don't kill your target deer every year? Yes=West No=East

Is a challenging deer season going to ruin your season? Yes=West No=East

It's night and day different hunting and I have spent quite a bit of time hunting both areas. The things I really didn't like about West was how badly the deer heard could be affected by droughts. I didn't like being limited to bowhunting out of a ground blind most of the time. I didn't like the fact that almost every place I ever hunted out west had cattle or some form of livestock to contend with.

All that said, it's fun knowing you're going to see multiple deer just about every sit when the feeder spins. Deer were much easier to pattern and hunt. I just about knew that if I located a target buck that I was going to get an opportunity to kill him if I put my time in.

The things I hate about East... PIGS! I hate them, they ruin my life! The deer are much harder to hunt in most cases. You may make multiple hunts without seeing a deer at all, especially if you're expecting to camp out and guard a feeder.

I love the hunting more in East Tx. It's a challenge and you really need to put some thought into every hunt. I love the sound of oak leaves crunching under a steady gait coming your way. I love when it all comes together and you get an arrow or bullet in a mature buck.

For me I pick East every single time but I'm also not going to choose the first place that comes available that has a pine tree on it. If you're fortunate enough to get on a well managed lease in E. Tx the sky is truly the limit on what you might shoot.


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Truth! I feel bad listening to all the people talk about crowded east TX hunting leases. Find the right one and it'll give west TX a run for its money every time.

txwhitetail 08-10-2017 10:39 PM

If you want pics of black panthers and bucks only on cam around midnight take the east Texas lease.

If you do go east Texas make sure you go with those quiet feeders for the really big 2 yr old bucks!

Acameron52 08-10-2017 10:42 PM

Too many crazies in east Texas, I always choose to go west.

Black Ice 08-10-2017 10:47 PM

East TX vs. West TX leases
 
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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 12640082)
If fed the same,, Ii feel east t will grow the largest bodies.. Look at Elgatos deer. They are the same east tx blood line and he gets them close to 300lbs by worming and making sure they are well fed.



Worming deer? I might as well go out back and kill the biggest cow. When you start worming deer you're running a cattle operation.


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jooger17 08-10-2017 11:08 PM

709 inches, I mean reasons, I love East Tx. That's just shy of a 142" average. My West Tx avg is substantially lower.

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