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1shot 12-07-2017 12:45 PM

Everything Concealed Carry
 
I plan on getting my chl after the start of the year. I have a few questions.
What is the most comfortable position to carry in?
What do you carry?
Single stack vs double stack does it really make a difference printing wise?
What are the rookie mistakes I should avoid?

and any other helpful hint would be great.

Winman 12-07-2017 12:51 PM

Since the beginning of legal carry,I have carried a Keltec 32,in a front pocket Desantis nylon pocket holster. On occasion I have substituted a Tarus 85 with a bobbed hammer or a Star model PD.

Jaybo31 12-07-2017 12:56 PM

What is the most comfortable position to carry in? Varies from person to person. I carry 3-4 oclock

What do you carry? XD 40

Single stack vs double stack does it really make a difference printing wise? Printing doesn't matter anymore. Double stack will be heavier.

What are the rookie mistakes I should avoid? Be proficient and comfortable with whatever you carry.

kd350 12-07-2017 12:58 PM

I carry at 2-4, just depends what I’m wearing. I’ve also come to realize that even though you think it’s obvious that your carrying, most of the time it’s not

I carry a glock 26 40 cal

stinkbelly 12-07-2017 01:01 PM

I love my crossbreed supertuck. I carry a glock 23 daily. I like it in the 3 o'clock position, but if I feel I need to protect it I will push it to the 2:30 position.

I carried my Sid 239 for years in a leather outside the pants hloster.

I never tuck my shirt in anymore. I don't care if I print because it isn't illegal.

My single stack Sig in 40cal is the same weight as my double stack glock 40cal. One is Stainless, the other polymer.


Rookie mistakes- using an Uncle Mikes holster from Walmart or Academy.

stinkbelly 12-07-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kd350 (Post 12994404)
I carry at 2-4, just depends what Iím wearing. Iíve also come to realize that even though you think itís obvious that your carrying, most of the time itís not

I carry a glock 26 40 cal


I second the part about not being obvious. Only you will know about it. I guess one thing I have been guilty of was continually checking to make sure it was not showing. One police in Oklahoma didn't like that very much.

Drycreek3189 12-07-2017 01:09 PM

As others have said, what you carry and how you carry it are personal preferences. I carry two or three different pistols depending on what I'm doing and where I'm going, but I almost always carry right on my hipbone, because whatever is there NEEDS to be in the same place time after time. That said, it's mostly a Shield (in .40 caliber), in an N82 Professional holster. Save yourself some time and money and buy that holster first, then you won't have a drawer full of cast off holsters.

1shot 12-07-2017 01:20 PM

Explain the o'clock to me please. Is belly button 12 and back 6?

Yelladog 12-07-2017 01:23 PM

Everything Concealed Carry
 
I carry on right hip all the time. Started carrying glock 42 and still do sometimes but most the time I carry a 19 with a +3 extension on it in dmbullard. I carried the 42 at 1st because it was smaller and felt like you could carry easy without anyone knowing. But once you get comfortable carrying you don't even think about the bigger gun. Like others have said most people don't have a clue you have one on. If you already have a gun you shoot well get a good holster and get used to it from the get go. Just my 2 cents. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9bdf6aadd4.jpg


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adam_p 12-07-2017 01:28 PM

Most comfortable, front pocket with a P3AT. I prefer a full size just behind my hip bone with a kydex/leather hybrid IWB holster.

whitetailtrail 12-07-2017 01:36 PM

I appendix carry a Glock 19 with a inforce apl in an Alex and Ryan Design holster. It's about capacity and not printing imo. You can conceal most any pistol with a little forethought. I don't really conceal my shield any better than I do my 19


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Russ79 12-07-2017 03:02 PM

I am new to this myself but I think where you care, in my opinion, is determined by whether you are open carry or concealed carry. Open carry, on my hip. Concealed carry, in my jeans, it is easier for me to carry inside front right (what some may call appendix carry?) because I have more room there than on my side. Just got my permit last September so still working on what works for me.

ultralite09 12-07-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1shot (Post 12994359)
I plan on getting my chl after the start of the year. I have a few questions.


What is the most comfortable position to carry in? Its all personal preference but I usually carry at 4 O'clock or Appendix

What do you carry? I personally alternate between a Glock G33, a G19, and a CZ P10C

Single stack vs double stack does it really make a difference printing wise? I dont care in the slightest about printing, mainly cause as others have stated, its not that noticeable. For preference, I prefer a double stack, then again im also the "crazy" guy that carries a second magazine regardless of the firearm I have on me.

What are the rookie mistakes I should avoid? Not training. And im not talking about going the the range once or twice a year. Best thing I ever did to gain confidence in carrying is taking a handgun combat class and a night time handgun class. The more you train, the more comfortable you will be, and the better prepared you will be.

and any other helpful hint would be great.


Every day carry weapons are only as good as how comfortable you are. A lot of things are personal preference. I used to prefer my Crossbreed super tuck and N82 tactical holster but now ive lost 50lbs and can comfortable carry appendix and I now run a full kydex holster IWB.


Also, im the guy that will carry OWB 90% of the time. Honestly because its the most comfortable. I call it "lazy ccw" carry OWB but Ill have my shirt draped over it. I was honestly surprised how little people noticed it. Been doing it this way for the past 4 years and have only had 2 people see/notice it.

mekholsters 12-07-2017 03:35 PM

I carry around 4 o'clock.

I carry either a Glock 19 or Glock 43 based on what my wardrobe for the day is.

Single stack certainly prints less for me but a lot of that depends on body type, holster, and wardrobe.

Rookie mistakes - No one is looking to see if you're carrying, but it will feel like it at first. Learn to use the restroom in public with your fully loaded gun in the holster. Sounds dumb, but practice it at home before you head out.

tvc184 12-07-2017 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1shot (Post 12994359)
I plan on getting my chl after the start of the year. I have a few questions.
What is the most comfortable position to carry in?
What do you carry?
Single stack vs double stack does it really make a difference printing wise?
What are the rookie mistakes I should avoid?

and any other helpful hint would be great.

Almost everything in life has a positive and negative. You have to weigh them personally to see what you are willing to put up with for what benefit. For example most people would probably agree that in a gunfight, in most situations a shotgun or rifle would be a better option than a handgun. Then why a handgun ever? Convenience, weight, easy to carry most of the time whether concealed or open, etc. In such a choice the less firepower as a negative is weighed against those positives. It is that way with most choices.

For what itís worth (which is just about nothing), I have carriy concealed for 34 years.

Most comfortable carry for most people if IWB is probably about 3-5 oíclock. It just doesnít pinch or constrict as much as other options. Is it the best? Not For me it isnít. I opt about 99.9% of the time in appendix carry... if IWB. I always carry concealed unless on duty which is a different animal. Why appendix when IWB? Access/speed. So it is an option between comfort and speed. I choose the speed. For me appendix is not uncomfortable but other options are ďmoreĒ comfortable. Like always, it is a personal preference between positives and negatives.

I also carry conceal in an OWB holster but only when I can cover it with a jacket.

For purely comfort, someone people like an ankle holster and especially if with a small handgun. It can be one of the most concealed locations period. The negative? Access and speed. It is probably the worst place to draw from. If someone has to draw from the ankle, I hope that about a 10 warning is given. Walking through the mall and you hear shots being fired by an active shooter several stores away and you just want to get your family to safety, an ankle holster might be great. You have a few seconds to arm yourself and egress from the situation. If however a guy comfronts you and you only have 2-3 seconds to react, I hope an ankle holstered gun is not your only option. But it can be great to conceal and comfortable (but even that, not for everyone) so for some people that positive might outweigh the negative.

If carrying concealed with a jacket, a shoulder holster might be the ticket. It is just about as easy (and with larger hanguns, way better) as the ankle but way more accessible. I have carried that way in years past but not anymore. I just donít like to have to reach across my body to draw. That is my negative but I am sure that some people love it. Personal preference in positives vs negatives.

What do I carry? Mostly a SW MP Shield 9mm. Sometimes the MP Compact 9mm and on very rare occasion, the full size MP. On similar rare occasions I carry the SW Bodyguard 380 but only if I canít conceal at least the Shield.

Single vs double stack? Printing difference for similar frame size is so small that I doubt that anyone can tell even if looking for it. If I can conceal my Shield single stack then I can conceal my Compact double stack. Weight is the only difference. The negative on the double stack is it is heavier but for that you might carry another 3-5 rounds. I always carry an extra magazine so for me capacity is not that big of an issue but I do think about it before I leave the house. Positives vs negatives.

Rookie mistakes? The biggest in my opinion is not training for self defense and that goes for even veteran police officers. I am not talking about shooting skills either. Yes you should practice drawing and shooting and under stress. Quite frankly very few people do. Even those that do shoot, stop right there. For can LTC carriers the last time they will shoot is during the licensing or requals. But again, that is not what I am talking about.

In my opinion shooting skills many times take a back seat to mental preparation. The body will not go where the mind has not first gone. I have been in shootings, have witnessed shootings, have watched many videos of shooting and have spoken to or heard face to face from many officers that have been in deadly force incidents including ones that I have witnessed. If you havenít mentally thought about it beforehand, you wonít do it at crunch time. Now, that doesnít mean you will necessarily freeze. But before you take any action toward a threat, your mind will have to resolve it. That might only take a few seconds but being shot at or charged with another weapon is a bad time to start making plans.

I could go into many scenarios but there is no room here for that. I will leave it at this. About three years ago my best friend at my department and a former partner shot and killed a guy in an up close engagement (his second fatal shooting). When I first saw him maybe two hours later, the first words he spoke to me went something like, ďI did exactly what you and I trained to do at the rangeĒ. He faced a guy with a gun about 10 feet away and the bad guy got off the first shot. My friend drew while moving to cover and firing while moving. The bad guy got off one shot. The officer got off seven in probably less then two seconds and you can actually hear him pause twice during that time. We have two car videos of it. I asked him about the pauses and he said that he was refocusing on his front sight. It was like pop-pop-pop... pop-pop... pop-pop. As he told me, he could have never done that had he not trained with me for that exact situation. The main point is again, the body will not go where the mind has not already been.

Many people reading this forum might be better shots than me but shooting paper might not help when you have half a second to make plans. An average shooter will likely win a gun battle with a great marksman when he has prepared mentally.

In my opinion.

Shinesintx 12-07-2017 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvc184 (Post 12995105)
Almost everything in life has a positive and negative. You have to weigh them personally to see what you are willing to put up with for what benefit. For example most people would probably agree that in a gunfight, in most situations a shotgun or rifle would be a better option than a handgun. Then why a handgun ever? Convenience, weight, easy to carry most of the time whether concealed or open, etc. In such a choice the less firepower as a negative is weighed against those positives. It is that way with most choices.

For what itís worth (which is just about nothing), I have carriy concealed for 34 years.

Most comfortable carry for most people if IWB is probably about 3-5 oíclock. It just doesnít pinch or constrict as much as other options. Is it the best? Not For me it isnít. I opt about 99.9% of the time in appendix carry... if IWB. I always carry concealed unless on duty which is a different animal. Why appendix when IWB? Access/speed. So it is an option between comfort and speed. I choose the speed. For me appendix is not uncomfortable but other options are ďmoreĒ comfortable. Like always, it is a personal preference between positives and negatives.

I also carry conceal in an OWB holster but only when I can cover it with a jacket.

For purely comfort, someone people like an ankle holster and especially if with a small handgun. It can be one of the most concealed locations period. The negative? Access and speed. It is probably the worst place to draw from. If someone has to draw from the ankle, I hope that about a 10 warning is given. Walking through the mall and you hear shots being fired by an active shooter several stores away and you just want to get your family to safety, an ankle holster might be great. You have a few seconds to arm yourself and egress from the situation. If however a guy comfronts you and you only have 2-3 seconds to react, I hope an ankle holstered gun is not your only option. But it can be great to conceal and comfortable (but even that, not for everyone) so for some people that positive might outweigh the negative.

If carrying concealed with a jacket, a shoulder holster might be the ticket. It is just about as easy (and with larger hanguns, way better) as the ankle but way more accessible. I have carried that way in years past but not anymore. I just donít like to have to reach across my body to draw. That is my negative but I am sure that some people love it. Personal preference in positives vs negatives.

What do I carry? Mostly a SW MP Shield 9mm. Sometimes the MP Compact 9mm and on very rare occasion, the full size MP. On similar rare occasions I carry the SW Bodyguard 380 but only if I canít conceal at least the Shield.

Single vs double stack? Printing difference for similar frame size is so small that I doubt that anyone can tell even if looking for it. If I can conceal my Shield single stack then I can conceal my Compact double stack. Weight is the only difference. The negative on the double stack is it is heavier but for that you might carry another 3-5 rounds. I always carry an extra magazine so for me capacity is not that big of an issue but I do think about it before I leave the house. Positives vs negatives.

Rookie mistakes? The biggest in my opinion is not training for self defense and that goes for even veteran police officers. I am not talking about shooting skills either. Yes you should practice drawing and shooting and under stress. Quite frankly very few people do. Even those that do shoot, stop right there. For can LTC carriers the last time they will shoot is during the licensing or requals. But again, that is not what I am talking about.

In my opinion shooting skills many times take a back seat to mental preparation. The body will not go where the mind has not first gone. I have been in shootings, have witnessed shootings, have watched many videos of shooting and have spoken to or heard face to face from many officers that have been in deadly force incidents including ones that I have witnessed. If you havenít mentally thought about it beforehand, you wonít do it at crunch time. Now, that doesnít mean you will necessarily freeze. But before you take any action toward a threat, your mind will have to resolve it. That might only take a few seconds but being shot at or charged with another weapon is a bad time to start making plans.

I could go into many scenarios but there is no room here for that. I will leave it at this. About three years ago my best friend at my department and a former partner shot and killed a guy in an up close engagement (his second fatal shooting). When I first saw him maybe two hours later, the first words he spoke to me went something like, ďI did exactly what you and I trained to do at the rangeĒ. He faced a guy with a gun about 10 feet away and the bad guy got off the first shot. My friend drew while moving to cover and firing while moving. The bad guy got off one shot. The officer got off seven in probably less then two seconds and you can actually hear him pause twice during that time. We have two car videos of it. I asked him about the pauses and he said that he was refocusing on his front sight. It was like pop-pop-pop... pop-pop... pop-pop. As he told me, he could have never done that had he not trained with me for that exact situation. The main point is again, the body will not go where the mind has not already been.

Many people reading this forum might be better shots than me but shooting paper might not help when you have half a second to make plans. An average shooter will likely win a gun battle with a great marksman when he has prepared mentally.

In my opinion.

I felt this was worth re quoting...the body will not go where the mind has not already been.

npe001 12-07-2017 04:08 PM

Cross breed holster with a Glock 26, 19, or 42 All at 4-5 o'clock. Some days I carry a 21 outside the waste band if I have a jacket to cover it up. And if I am tucking my shirt in I will carry a lcp in my front pocket.

Acameron52 12-07-2017 04:32 PM

I wish I could carry 2 o clock but my belly gets in the way. 3-4 for me.

Still Hunter 12-07-2017 04:53 PM

TVC184

Great Post! Thanks for the insight. Anyone carrying needs additional training. Not just to be better prepared for an active shooter situation but also better prepared not to shoot an innocent bystander.

41Chevy 12-07-2017 05:06 PM

I carry my Ruger LC9 in this.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...pslg5rwayp.jpg

35remington 12-07-2017 05:14 PM

LC9S at 3:30 IWB with this holster and this belt.

I highly recommend the Magpul belts, no matter which gun and holster combo you choose.

brokeno 12-07-2017 05:18 PM

I carry 3 different ways. One is sneeky Pete on my side or a holster on my side ( just seat belt and getting keys or change gets in the way and also have a boot holster that I carry in my left boot for church and places that I don't want people to know I'm carrying. It's just what your comfortable with.

lbbf 12-07-2017 05:24 PM

Glock 23 in a Crossbreed supertuck at 3 o'clock. Train yourself to look for 30:06 and 30:07 signs. I see a few 30:07 signs here and there but rarely see a 30:06. Also relax. No one knows your carrying despite what it will feel like.

critter69 12-07-2017 06:44 PM

I tried many, and now have the most comfortable way I have found. Smart carry, 12:30, Kahr p380( extra mag.). I can carry no mater what clothes I choose to wear. From dress to trunks and any thing inbetween. And never have to worry about imprinting or it being seen.

justin81 12-07-2017 07:09 PM

right hip glock 19 or shield 9mm depending on clothing

Jeremy7306 12-07-2017 07:48 PM

Everything Concealed Carry
 
What is the most comfortable position to carry in?


4 oíclock is my preferred carry position in a kydex holster

What do you carry?

Glock 23


Single stack vs double stack does it really make a difference printing wise?

Double stack all day every day. I like having 14 rounds in the pistol, plus 13 more in an extra mag. Iíve never had a single stack so I donít contest to how they carry, but Iíll stick with double


What are the rookie mistakes I should avoid?

Donít worry so much about printing. No one cares or pays attention, except for other concealed carriers.



and any other helpful hint would be great

Carry as big of pistol as you can comfortably carry!!!! No sense in carrying a small single stack 9mm that holds 6 round when ya can go slightly bigger and have something much more capable -in my opinion. But itís better than nothing either way. I carry an extra mag everywhere I go, so 27 rounds total. Never know...

Also- buy a QUALITY holster. Some arenít cheap. Youíll have to decided which style you like best, al kydex, hybrid and all leather. I love all kydex. But seriously- a quality holster is much much safer and comfortable than a cheap universal holster. Sometimes it takes buying a few to find out what you like the best.

FYI- Iím not knocking anyone carrying a small pistol, I just personally think most that do would be much better suited carrying slightly bigger.


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Jeremy7306 12-07-2017 07:56 PM

Another thing to go along with a quality holster is a quality gun belt. The belt can make a huge difference in how your pistol carries, especially if your carrying something glock 19/23 size and up.


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Grumpy1911 12-07-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kd350 (Post 12994404)
I carry at 2-4, just depends what Iím wearing. Iíve also come to realize that even though you think itís obvious that your carrying, most of the time itís not

I carry a glock 26 40 cal



Glock 26 40 cal? Typo?


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Hamshire 12-07-2017 08:20 PM

Glock 19, appendix carry in a High Noon Mr. Softy holster. Have been carrying for 20 years, it’s the most comfortable for me by far.

kd350 12-07-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy1911 (Post 12996006)
Glock 26 40 cal? Typo?


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It is. Sorry, I got a 27


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TacticalCowboy 12-07-2017 09:22 PM

Appendix or ankle for me. I carry a full size XD40 and/or a kel tec p3at in those positions, respectively.

MQ32Shooter 12-07-2017 09:32 PM

Rookie mistakes. Buying and trying to carry a Hog Leg concealed, just because someone else says that itís simple, light, carries all day and NEVER knows itís there. Bull. If it ainít VERY comfortable and convenient, you wonít carry it all the time. If it ainít on you when you need it, then you could be dead meat. It doesnít have to be a cannon with a 20 round clip. Itís not like buying a Tractor where under buying is typically the problem. Good luck. Hope your mistakes will be cheaper than mine.:)

John Bowy 12-07-2017 09:44 PM

On the hip Taurus pt111 double stack

jaytx 12-07-2017 10:07 PM

G19 using a T-Rex holster in the 8 o'clock position I'm left handed. Its about the only place I can conceal one consistently.
I can say I've tried to run a small pistol like I would in a real situation and honestly can't do it. If you are thinking about carrying a small pistol like bodyguard or other similar pistols try running one hard in simulated situations like TVC184 suggested above and you might change your mind.

Hunter75 12-08-2017 04:04 AM

You have to start at the foundation, a high quality belt. I use an SOE belt with the Cobra buckle. A more ridgid belt makes all the difference. Then spend the money on a good holster. I have been using Ventcore IWB mini by StealthGear USA at the 3 or 4 o'clock position (stealthgearusa.com) for a number of years now and absolutely love this setup. I carry a S&W Shield everyday and it almost "disappears". I'm also using a Kydex double mag carrier at about the 7 o'clock position.

Like others have said, in the beginning you'll think everyone can see that you are carrying, not really the case. You'll also learn how to "adjust" things. If you don't get the belt just right it will tend to fall a bit. There will be a learning curve, just like someone said about visiting the restroom.

Just find the gun you'll actually carry comfortably, if not you'll tend to leave it at home.

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Jeremy7306 12-08-2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TacticalCowboy (Post 12996259)
Appendix or ankle for me. I carry a full size XD40 and/or a kel tec p3at in those positions, respectively.



Xd on the ankle and kel tec on the belt right?????


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Hooverfb 12-08-2017 05:36 AM

The best position to carry ive found is either strong side hip or 5 o clock. Double stack and single stack fobprint differently, but if you practice and dress accordingly, its not a big deal. I'd honestly say the biggest rookie mistake you could make is using a small gun.it might be easy to hide, but small guns are hard to shoot accurately consistent without alot of practice, and don't give you any ammo benefits. Get something you can shoot well. If you conceal, you still have to hit your target and no one else.

lbbf 12-08-2017 05:45 AM

Also as others have said, get a good gun belt! It should be stiff. Make a world of difference in how comfortable you are while carrying.

stinkbelly 12-08-2017 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1shot (Post 12994483)
Explain the o'clock to me please. Is belly button 12 and back 6?

Yes. Belly 12, right hip 3, back 6, left side 9.

1shot 12-08-2017 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvc184 (Post 12995105)
Almost everything in life has a positive and negative. You have to weigh them personally to see what you are willing to put up with for what benefit. For example most people would probably agree that in a gunfight, in most situations a shotgun or rifle would be a better option than a handgun. Then why a handgun ever? Convenience, weight, easy to carry most of the time whether concealed or open, etc. In such a choice the less firepower as a negative is weighed against those positives. It is that way with most choices.

For what itís worth (which is just about nothing), I have carriy concealed for 34 years.

Most comfortable carry for most people if IWB is probably about 3-5 oíclock. It just doesnít pinch or constrict as much as other options. Is it the best? Not For me it isnít. I opt about 99.9% of the time in appendix carry... if IWB. I always carry concealed unless on duty which is a different animal. Why appendix when IWB? Access/speed. So it is an option between comfort and speed. I choose the speed. For me appendix is not uncomfortable but other options are ďmoreĒ comfortable. Like always, it is a personal preference between positives and negatives.

I also carry conceal in an OWB holster but only when I can cover it with a jacket.

For purely comfort, someone people like an ankle holster and especially if with a small handgun. It can be one of the most concealed locations period. The negative? Access and speed. It is probably the worst place to draw from. If someone has to draw from the ankle, I hope that about a 10 warning is given. Walking through the mall and you hear shots being fired by an active shooter several stores away and you just want to get your family to safety, an ankle holster might be great. You have a few seconds to arm yourself and egress from the situation. If however a guy comfronts you and you only have 2-3 seconds to react, I hope an ankle holstered gun is not your only option. But it can be great to conceal and comfortable (but even that, not for everyone) so for some people that positive might outweigh the negative.

If carrying concealed with a jacket, a shoulder holster might be the ticket. It is just about as easy (and with larger hanguns, way better) as the ankle but way more accessible. I have carried that way in years past but not anymore. I just donít like to have to reach across my body to draw. That is my negative but I am sure that some people love it. Personal preference in positives vs negatives.

What do I carry? Mostly a SW MP Shield 9mm. Sometimes the MP Compact 9mm and on very rare occasion, the full size MP. On similar rare occasions I carry the SW Bodyguard 380 but only if I canít conceal at least the Shield.

Single vs double stack? Printing difference for similar frame size is so small that I doubt that anyone can tell even if looking for it. If I can conceal my Shield single stack then I can conceal my Compact double stack. Weight is the only difference. The negative on the double stack is it is heavier but for that you might carry another 3-5 rounds. I always carry an extra magazine so for me capacity is not that big of an issue but I do think about it before I leave the house. Positives vs negatives.

Rookie mistakes? The biggest in my opinion is not training for self defense and that goes for even veteran police officers. I am not talking about shooting skills either. Yes you should practice drawing and shooting and under stress. Quite frankly very few people do. Even those that do shoot, stop right there. For can LTC carriers the last time they will shoot is during the licensing or requals. But again, that is not what I am talking about.

In my opinion shooting skills many times take a back seat to mental preparation. The body will not go where the mind has not first gone. I have been in shootings, have witnessed shootings, have watched many videos of shooting and have spoken to or heard face to face from many officers that have been in deadly force incidents including ones that I have witnessed. If you havenít mentally thought about it beforehand, you wonít do it at crunch time. Now, that doesnít mean you will necessarily freeze. But before you take any action toward a threat, your mind will have to resolve it. That might only take a few seconds but being shot at or charged with another weapon is a bad time to start making plans.

I could go into many scenarios but there is no room here for that. I will leave it at this. About three years ago my best friend at my department and a former partner shot and killed a guy in an up close engagement (his second fatal shooting). When I first saw him maybe two hours later, the first words he spoke to me went something like, ďI did exactly what you and I trained to do at the rangeĒ. He faced a guy with a gun about 10 feet away and the bad guy got off the first shot. My friend drew while moving to cover and firing while moving. The bad guy got off one shot. The officer got off seven in probably less then two seconds and you can actually hear him pause twice during that time. We have two car videos of it. I asked him about the pauses and he said that he was refocusing on his front sight. It was like pop-pop-pop... pop-pop... pop-pop. As he told me, he could have never done that had he not trained with me for that exact situation. The main point is again, the body will not go where the mind has not already been.

Many people reading this forum might be better shots than me but shooting paper might not help when you have half a second to make plans. An average shooter will likely win a gun battle with a great marksman when he has prepared mentally.

In my opinion.

Really good info. Thank you

Hamshire 12-08-2017 09:18 AM

I'm just waiting on TVC to write a book. I'll be the first in line to buy it.

That's not sarcasm!

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dcbrown 12-08-2017 09:44 AM

Glock 23 40 cal., 4-5 o'clock position, Texas Gunleather "Texas Heritage" IWB holster. Carrying this combo for about 10 years now.

35remington 12-08-2017 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamshire (Post 12997108)
I'm just waiting on TVC to write a book. I'll be the first in line to buy it.

That's not sarcasm!

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I hope the footnote on every page says "In my opinion."

Hamshire 12-08-2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 35remington (Post 12997265)
I hope the footnote on every page says "In my opinion."

Well, that's your opinion.

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Smithwr 12-08-2017 12:51 PM

I carry a xds in a crossbreed supertuck 4 oclock


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