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dphillips62 11-02-2017 07:01 AM

Black Hills Gold Ammo
 
Let me start by saying I have not gun hunted deer in many years. I have been invited to my company's corporate lease in Del Rio and they don't allow bow hunting so I need to break out the rifle. I don't have a hunting load for this gun and there is not enough time to work one up. So here is the gun
GA Precision Crusader
Caliber:
308 Win, (other calibers custom order)
Action:
G.A. Precision Templar® Short Action
Barrel Type:
Bartlein Stainless Steel 5R Rifling #7 G.A.P. Contour 1:11.25 Twist
Barrel Length:
23 inches (22 from front of lug)
Stock:
McMillan A5 in GAP camouflage with 1 stud and 4 flush cups
Trigger Guard:
Badger Ordnance M5 DBM with one 5rd magazine
Finish:
Mil Spec O.D. Cerakote

The ranch also won't allow any target type ammo I am currently using 178 gr A Max
So the closest thing I can find is Black Hills Gold 308 Win. 178Gr. ELD-X ammo
Any one used this?
I have been told to expect pretty long shots at this ranch not uncommon 350+ yard shots which is not a problem for this gun.
I generally shoot steel with this gun at 700 with no issues.
thanks in advance

rosco11 11-02-2017 07:20 AM

Sounds like an awesome rifle set up! Will you be hunting big body exotics or whitetail?

I'm a big fan of the federal premium gamekings but they are 165gr and POI will be fairly different than your 178gr Hornady. A range trip could get you dialed in with em, gamekings are proven over the years to be very effective, close and long range.

dphillips62 11-02-2017 07:28 AM

Both whitetail and exotics.
This gun is not a fan of the 168 gr pills at distance I tried the 168 gr SMK

dphillips62 11-02-2017 07:41 AM

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Outbreaker 11-02-2017 07:44 AM

with the 1:11.25 twist I would look at the 150gr.

muzzlebrake 11-02-2017 07:47 AM

Here ya go. 175gr pills
http://www.cabelas.com/product/FEDER....uts?slotId=29
or
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/15...bond-box-of-20

dphillips62 11-02-2017 07:54 AM

The only light bullet i have ever found that would shoot out of this gun was the lapua 155gr scenar and it's a match target. This gun is very picky with bullet length/weight.

dphillips62 11-02-2017 07:56 AM

federal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzlebrake (Post 12885601)

Thank you I will see if my local gun shop has them.

muzzlebrake 11-02-2017 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dphillips62 (Post 12885640)
Thank you I will see if my local gun shop has them.

I think these may be loaded with Barnes bullets which are solid copper.

175gr7.62 11-02-2017 08:37 AM

I'd take a look at the Fusion 180gr. Easy to find

dphillips62 11-03-2017 06:43 AM

federal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzlebrake (Post 12885601)

I couldn't find the federal anywhere I looked all over the internet and no one has it yet.
So I ordered the black hills we will see if it is as accurate as the reviews say it is.

kmon 11-03-2017 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzlebrake (Post 12885679)
I think these may be loaded with Barnes bullets which are solid copper.


Did you check the link?

Quote:

Federal Premium® Edge TLR™ Rifle Ammunition

True all-range hunting bullet
Copper shank and lead core retain weight
AccuChannel groove minimizes drag
Less wind drift and drop
I have gotten good accuracy with Federal ammo in the past, my only complaint with it as a reloader is brass longevity as the brass is usually quite soft and primer pockets often expand in a few rounds.

bloodstick 11-03-2017 09:01 AM

Out of my 308, my furthest shot on a pig is 364 yards with 165gr Federal Fusions. Have not really needed to swap.

Mike D 11-03-2017 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dphillips62 (Post 12885462)
Let me start by saying I have not gun hunted deer in many years. I have been invited to my company's corporate lease in Del Rio and they don't allow bow hunting so I need to break out the rifle. I don't have a hunting load for this gun and there is not enough time to work one up. So here is the gun
GA Precision Crusader
Caliber:
308 Win, (other calibers custom order)
Action:
G.A. Precision Templar® Short Action
Barrel Type:
Bartlein Stainless Steel 5R Rifling #7 G.A.P. Contour 1:11.25 Twist
Barrel Length:
23 inches (22 from front of lug)
Stock:
McMillan A5 in GAP camouflage with 1 stud and 4 flush cups
Trigger Guard:
Badger Ordnance M5 DBM with one 5rd magazine
Finish:
Mil Spec O.D. Cerakote

The ranch also won't allow any target type ammo I am currently using 178 gr A Max
So the closest thing I can find is Black Hills Gold 308 Win. 178Gr. ELD-X ammo
Any one used this?
I have been told to expect pretty long shots at this ranch not uncommon 350+ yard shots which is not a problem for this gun.
I generally shoot steel with this gun at 700 with no issues.
thanks in advance

Hornady Precision hunter 178 ELDX should be money in that gun since you already shoot the 178 AMAX (which has been discontinued and replaced with the ELDM/ELDX bullets).

dphillips62 11-03-2017 09:07 AM

federal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmon (Post 12889457)
Did you check the link?



I have gotten good accuracy with Federal ammo in the past, my only complaint with it as a reloader is brass longevity as the brass is usually quite soft and primer pockets often expand in a few rounds.

yes cabelas was out of stock on the 308
midway said coming soon

dphillips62 11-03-2017 09:10 AM

hornady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 12889481)
Hornady Precision hunter 178 ELDX should be money in that gun since you already shoot the 178 AMAX (which has been discontinued and replaced with the ELDM/ELDX bullets).

Never have had good luck with loaded hornady ammo for some reason. The black hills has the eld-x bullet loaded in it and black hills has a good reputation for being very consistent.

Mike D 11-03-2017 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dphillips62 (Post 12889526)
Never have had good luck with loaded hornady ammo for some reason. The black hills has the eld-x bullet loaded in it and black hills has a good reputation for being very consistent.

No doubt Black Hills is quality. My factory 700 5R loved the Precision hunter and oddly enough the Hornady Black Ammo as well. I know a lot of people have had issues with the Hornady Superformance.

Livin'2hunt 11-03-2017 11:11 AM

I have a very similar rifle with the exact rate of twist in a Brux tube. Mine will shoot 178s but it is 1 to 1.25 MOA at best. It absolutely SHINES with the 165-175s as it should (0.158 MOA). I have never gone as low as the 150s but they may be outside the 1:11.25's purview.

I have a load for 165 Hornady SP that will shoot nickel-sized groups at 200 if you have the time to get to the range with it. I'd be happy to send it to you when I get home. It also happens to hit deer like a bolt of lightening.


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ar3731guy 11-03-2017 11:23 AM

ive been shooting choice ammo for a while now and I am really happy with the offerings and prices. plus every round is handloaded.
https://choiceammunition.com/product...08-winchester/

Mike D 11-03-2017 06:31 PM

Those prices aren’t bad at all for hand loaded Ammo. Mass produced commercial is higher than that in most cases.


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Slick8 11-03-2017 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 12889481)
Hornady Precision hunter 178 ELDX should be money in that gun since you already shoot the 178 AMAX (which has been discontinued and replaced with the ELDM/ELDX bullets).

Quote:

Originally Posted by dphillips62 (Post 12889526)
Never have had good luck with loaded hornady ammo for some reason. The black hills has the eld-x bullet loaded in it and black hills has a good reputation for being very consistent.

I've had mixed results through the years but will say my Savage likes this ammo really well and it's priced right. Most any Academy or that outdoors store on Buss. 59 should have it on hand, Victoria All Sports I believe...?

I'm headed to El Campo Sunday to shoot a ladder with the 168 ELD myself.

KC Huntin 11-03-2017 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 12889481)
Hornady Precision hunter 178 ELDX should be money in that gun since you already shoot the 178 AMAX (which has been discontinued and replaced with the ELDM/ELDX bullets).

This. Done.

Woah wait wow...

https://choiceammunition.com/product...0-hand-loaded/

JakeGraves 11-04-2017 08:43 AM

Man, with a rig like that you ought to be reloading. Look for the 178ELDX. If you haven’t tried Hornady ammo recently, maybe try again as they have improved with the recent influx of long range interest.

300rem7 11-04-2017 10:32 AM

180 gr Accubond

RanchFairy 11-04-2017 10:40 AM

The one that shoots.
VLDX is a great start.

Texas89 11-04-2017 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 12891547)
Those prices aren’t bad at all for hand loaded Ammo. Mass produced commercial is higher than that in most cases.


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That's no lie


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dphillips62 11-13-2017 08:17 AM

Well yesterday I went out and shot the Black Hills they grouped a 1/2" left of my hand loads and they did very well at 100 yds, 3 shots right at 1/2" center to center not as good as my loads but very good for factory loads. I also shot 1 round at 500 yd steel plate and nailed it almost dead center. My range was a mess from Harvey only my 100 yd target remained UP. I will load some pics this evening if I remember.

sierracharlie338 11-13-2017 08:30 AM

Which blackhills did you go with? I have basically the same rifle and it shoots the 175 FGMM really well. The Hornady precision hunter not quite as well.

dphillips62 11-13-2017 10:03 AM

Gold 178 gr ELD-X

dphillips62 11-22-2017 03:58 PM

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So the ammo turned out great hit like a hammer took this guy at 480 yards



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dphillips62 11-22-2017 04:00 PM

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dphillips62 11-22-2017 04:02 PM

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And he had some record book $&@/


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dphillips62 11-22-2017 04:05 PM

Well the picture didn't drop

dphillips62 11-22-2017 04:06 PM

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dphillips62 11-22-2017 04:09 PM

I'm sitting in my bow blind trying to update this sorry


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