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gingib 08-07-2017 10:44 AM

Best .30 cal suppressor?
 
I know there are a lot of factors, but if you had $1000 to buy a titanium .30 cal suppressor what would you buy?

Will be using it mainly on a .300 BLK, .223, and .308 Ar-10 down the road. Mostly for thermal pig hunting

scott.str 08-07-2017 10:50 AM

I have a specwar and love it but I would look for a serviceable can if you want to shoot cast lead 300blk out. If you don't care about that then go with one you can put on anything. Mine will go up to 300 RUM and full auto rated so can take abuse.

hrdwrkncwby76 08-07-2017 10:51 AM

I got the rugged surge 7.62's


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gingib 08-07-2017 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott.str (Post 12630014)
I have a specwar and love it but I would look for a serviceable can if you want to shoot cast lead 300blk out. If you don't care about that then go with one you can put on anything. Mine will go up to 300 RUM and full auto rated so can take abuse.

Please explain I am confused.

I want a .30 cal titanium can to shoot up to a .308 when i buy one

Azzy 08-07-2017 10:54 AM

7.62 Saker

gingib 08-07-2017 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzy (Post 12630036)
7.62 Saker

Why this over a Omega 300? Just picking your brain

7.62 Saker is not Titanium

-HIC- 08-07-2017 11:01 AM

The Saker is nice but heavy. I have found that I am only using my Omega lately on 30 cal. I love my 5.56 specwar but find the .30 a touch heavy and long. All I can say is I always seem to leave everything at the house except the Omega. :)

I will say that I am somewhat loyal to SilencerCo. The warranty cannot be beat, they even cover stupid, once. ;)

gingib 08-07-2017 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by -HIC- (Post 12630062)
The Saker is nice but heavy. I have found that I am only using my Omega lately on 30 cal. I love my 5.56 specwar but find the .30 a touch heavy and long. All I can say is I always seem to leave everything at the house except the Omega. :)

I will say that I am somewhat loyal to SilencerCo. The warranty cannot be beat, they even cover stupid, once. ;)

This is also a concern of mine is weight. The Omega 300 is super light and makes a light setup with my 10.5 inch .300 blk

Cajun Blake 08-07-2017 11:18 AM

FYI - I decided on the Dead Air Sandman Ti 30 cal., and also added a Dead Air Mask RF suppressor. I paid $900 for both cans as Gamaliel Shooting Supply usually runs a special every 3-6 months. Currently they have the Sandman-Ti listed at $699

http://www.gamaliel.com/nfaitems/silencers.asp

couldn't tell you about performance since I've yet to recv them :(

-HIC- 08-07-2017 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingib (Post 12630090)
This is also a concern of mine is weight. The Omega 300 is super light and makes a light setup with my 10.5 inch .300 blk

This was my original reason for the Omega, weight. I bought it to be the dedicated can on my 9" .300 / thermal setup. At this point most of my rifles will accept that can, I even use it on my precision 6.5 creedmoor. Hell, I shot a group in the .3's @ 300 yards with that suppressor and the ASR mount. The only reason I bring this up is because most will tell you Thunder Beast is the only can you should goto for precision rifles. The Omega is versatile, it comes with a direct thread adapter if you wanted to go that route. There is a picture of that group on this site somewhere. Point of Aim/ Impact changes very little given the weight of that suppressor.

txpitdog 08-07-2017 11:28 AM

Also have a Specwar 762. It is older "technology" but works very well and is built to last


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-HIC- 08-07-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajun Blake (Post 12630136)
FYI - I decided on the Dead Air Sandman Ti 30 cal., and also added a Dead Air Mask RF suppressor. I paid $900 for both cans as Gamaliel Shooting Supply usually runs a special every 3-6 months. Currently they have the Sandman-Ti listed at $699

http://www.gamaliel.com/nfaitems/silencers.asp

couldn't tell you about performance since I've yet to recv them :(

I have heard good things about Dead Air, I think you will be a happy camper! I believe one of the owners used to be with SilencerCo.

JeffK 08-07-2017 11:34 AM

thunderbeast ultra 7 or crux

yhm has a titanium can also

-HIC- 08-07-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingib (Post 12630025)
Please explain I am confused.

I want a .30 cal titanium can to shoot up to a .308 when i buy one

Scott is just saying that if you plan to shoot lead through any suppressor it has to be user serviceable to get the lead out. :)


If you are shooting copper jacketed bullets this should not be a concern.

I have an Octane .45 that is user serviceable and can handle sub .300. I will tell you that the performance of that can is horrible on sub sonic .300. I thought it would be cool to have a pistol suppressor but it has not been out of the safe in over two years. Shooting a suppressed .45 is just awkward and the other cans that are designed for high powered rifles perform so much better.

150class 08-07-2017 12:39 PM

Omega or Sandman from my experience which is limited

Have a ark30 also which isn't bad

DoubleGProstaff 08-07-2017 12:39 PM

Thunderbeast


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zr2chevy22 08-07-2017 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajun Blake (Post 12630136)
FYI - I decided on the Dead Air Sandman Ti 30 cal., and also added a Dead Air Mask RF suppressor. I paid $900 for both cans as Gamaliel Shooting Supply usually runs a special every 3-6 months. Currently they have the Sandman-Ti listed at $699

http://www.gamaliel.com/nfaitems/silencers.asp

couldn't tell you about performance since I've yet to recv them :(


I have a Dead Air Armament Sandman-L I use on a 300blk, 223 and 308 and it is an AWESOME can rated up to 300 winner. I also have a Mask HD and it is awesome on a 22 pistol. Very quiet. Haven't shot it on my ruger 10/22 yet but I can see it being a squirrel and raccoon killing machine.

I've been extremely pleased with my Dead Air products.

JakeGraves 08-07-2017 01:02 PM

Don't get a Thunderbeast or Crux if you plan to rapid fire. If you are more interested in precision, both are great. I have a tbac ultra9 and poi does not change.

gingib 08-07-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 150class (Post 12630459)
Omega or Sandman from my experience which is limited

Have a ark30 also which isn't bad

Seem to be 2 very popular models.

My next question is : if they have lifetime warranties, why would someone need a Titanium silencer? Seems titanium lasts alot longer from what I heard.

JeffK 08-07-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingib (Post 12630533)
Seem to be 2 very popular models.

My next question is : if they have lifetime warranties, why would someone need a Titanium silencer? Seems titanium lasts alot longer from what I heard.

Titanium cans are lighter but not necessary stronger

JeffK 08-07-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeGraves (Post 12630518)
Don't get a Thunderbeast or Crux if you plan to rapid fire. If you are more interested in precision, both are great. I have a tbac ultra9 and poi does not change.

I believe Crux is rated for rapid fire with the muzzle break. not sure shooting at hogs is considered rapid fire.

mattp34 08-07-2017 01:16 PM

Thunder Beast Ultra 9 or 7 I have both and love them. POI is same with or without suppressor.

JakeGraves 08-07-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 12630551)
I believe Crux is rated for rapid fire with the muzzle break. not sure shooting at hogs is considered rapid fire.

No, shooting hogs would not be rapid fire. Some people like to empty an AR mag as fast as possible, change mag, and do it again. No titanium can will hold up to that. If you are at least taking aim between shots and 8-10 rounds max, these two companies are hard to beat. I have heard a lot about Dead Air as well but haven't even seen one in person to suggest it to you.
I can tell you that I can shoot my 6.5 with tbac ultra9 on and hit cold bore point of aim, take it off and install on my 7 and hit point of aim as well.

mojohunter 08-07-2017 01:28 PM

I have the One by Gemtech. It's multi caliber titanium can ranging from .17hmr up to .300 win mag. My dad got the Rugged Surge, and my brother got the Omega. We all bought them at the same time on the same trust. We have been pleased with all 3.

Horitexan 08-07-2017 04:10 PM

TBAC Ultra 7 for accuracy, minimal POI shift. If you're going to do magazine dumps, you'll need something else like an Omega



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150class 08-07-2017 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingib (Post 12630533)
Seem to be 2 very popular models.

My next question is : if they have lifetime warranties, why would someone need a Titanium silencer? Seems titanium lasts alot longer from what I heard.

Shaving a few ounces off with the Ti

Kills-myth 08-07-2017 04:19 PM

Got to shoot the Thundebeast 30p-1 on a 300blk and was sold! When i finally drop coins it will be on a 30p-1

MarkV 08-07-2017 05:26 PM

I have a Yankee hill titanium QD and it is on my bolt action guns and I love it.

Also have the specwar for my SBR and anything else. Bought it because it is a tank and meant for all kinds of abuse.

Outbreaker 08-07-2017 05:29 PM

For up to .308 win only I would look at the YHM Ultralight Tactical

https://www.silencershop.com/silence...ical-ult.html?

$833+ stamp.

Jethro 08-07-2017 05:42 PM

Titanium is lighter, but stainless is tougher. If I were doing mag dumps or full auto, no way would I buy a titanium can for that use. But for 98% of what most people use a can for titanium is fine and has some advantages in weight savings.

Having said that, the size and weight of the Omega is really nice. I have 2 of them and use them for precision rifle, hunting, and coyote calling. Suppression is good and the QD system is handy. Plus having the ASR is nice because it works with my Specwar 556K as well.

Both my son and another good friend of mine run a Sandman TI direct thread, and I really like that can as well. Really nice tone, it is built like a tank, very good suppression. That one would be high on my list if direct thread was an option.

But I see no reason to rule out some other SS cans either. The Sandman S would be a strong contender as well for a general purpose 30 cal can.

Any of those should be well under 1K (not including stamp, that is).

hoythitman 08-07-2017 05:49 PM

Omega 30


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ATXArcher 08-07-2017 08:04 PM

Another vote for Thunder Beast


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TxMedic 08-07-2017 08:19 PM

Thunderbeast Ultra 7.

Mike D 08-07-2017 09:00 PM

Crux Ark 30.

Super light weight, good sound, made in Texas.


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Tye 08-07-2017 09:12 PM

https://deadairsilencers.com/products/sandman-ti/

Up to 300 win mag and no barrel length restrictions. Who else offers that:D

stxhunter 08-07-2017 09:23 PM

I have a suppressed armament TI can and a specwar 7.62. Wish I wouldn't have bought the specwar mainly because of the weight, sounds good though.

Lately I've been looking at the dead air sandman, crux and rugged suppressors. Can't really decide between the three.

gingib 08-08-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbreaker (Post 12631336)
For up to .308 win only I would look at the YHM Ultralight Tactical

https://www.silencershop.com/silence...ical-ult.html?

$833+ stamp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkV (Post 12631329)
I have a Yankee hill titanium QD and it is on my bolt action guns and I love it.

Also have the specwar for my SBR and anything else. Bought it because it is a tank and meant for all kinds of abuse.

YHM makes some good stuff I heard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethro (Post 12631356)
Titanium is lighter, but stainless is tougher. If I were doing mag dumps or full auto, no way would I buy a titanium can for that use. But for 98% of what most people use a can for titanium is fine and has some advantages in weight savings.

Having said that, the size and weight of the Omega is really nice. I have 2 of them and use them for precision rifle, hunting, and coyote calling. Suppression is good and the QD system is handy. Plus having the ASR is nice because it works with my Specwar 556K as well.

Both my son and another good friend of mine run a Sandman TI direct thread, and I really like that can as well. Really nice tone, it is built like a tank, very good suppression. That one would be high on my list if direct thread was an option.

But I see no reason to rule out some other SS cans either. The Sandman S would be a strong contender as well for a general purpose 30 cal can.

Any of those should be well under 1K (not including stamp, that is).

Quote:

Originally Posted by stxhunter (Post 12631979)
I have a suppressed armament TI can and a specwar 7.62. Wish I wouldn't have bought the specwar mainly because of the weight, sounds good though.

Lately I've been looking at the dead air sandman, crux and rugged suppressors. Can't really decide between the three.

Yes weight will factor alot into my decision as with thermal hunting sometimes we gotta stalk up a good ways. I want something light, more then likely with a lifetime warranty and/or titanium

I will not be shooting more then 8-12 shots at a time on the high end, if I run into a big group of pigs

Outbreaker 08-08-2017 11:20 AM

I own 3 YHM suppressors with one in jail. If you were closer I would let you shoot them. They were the only company for the longest time with a .300RUM rated suppressor.

Their QD system is awesome. Solid consistent lock up and all the moving parts are on the mount not the can. Easy to replace since they are a non NFA item.

Jethro 08-08-2017 11:41 AM

If short and light are two of the big criteria, plus excellent warranty, then the Omega is hard to beat. Good price point, and good suppression. Plus it will go either direct thread or use the ASR system. The Anchor Brake takes out a lot of recoil as well.

There are folks that don't Like SiCo, but I have a lot of their stuff and they have always treated me right. For absolute sure if something goes wrong you will be taken care of in a timely manner. I did have the outer shell on one of my Omegas come unthreaded, but it was no biggie. They told me I could send it in to them to fix or they could just send me some Rocksett and I could do it. I just Rocksetted the threads myself and called it done. No further issues.

IMO though you can't really go wrong with anything Dead Air either. Or SAS. Probably others as well, but those 3 brands are the ones I have direct experience with.

gingib 08-08-2017 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethro (Post 12633277)
If short and light are two of the big criteria, plus excellent warranty, then the Omega is hard to beat. Good price point, and good suppression. Plus it will go either direct thread or use the ASR system. The Anchor Brake takes out a lot of recoil as well.

There are folks that don't Like SiCo, but I have a lot of their stuff and they have always treated me right. For absolute sure if something goes wrong you will be taken care of in a timely manner. I did have the outer shell on one of my Omegas come unthreaded, but it was no biggie. They told me I could send it in to them to fix or they could just send me some Rocksett and I could do it. I just Rocksetted the threads myself and called it done. No further issues.

IMO though you can't really go wrong with anything Dead Air either. Or SAS. Probably others as well, but those 3 brands are the ones I have direct experience with.

Yeah a lifetime warranty is VERY hard to beat with no questions asked.

The Omega 300 and Sandman S have those

Outbreaker 08-08-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingib (Post 12633308)
Yeah a lifetime warranty is VERY hard to beat with no questions asked.

The Omega 300 and Sandman S have those

YHM does as well.

-HIC- 08-08-2017 01:31 PM

I would normally tell you to call up to SilencerShop and talk to those guys about your pending purchase. However, now that SilencerCo and SilencerShop are at odds on the legality of the post 41p kiosks SShop does not sell SilencerCo anymore and they will not give you honest advice on their products. There is a lot of good information in this thread. I am sure you will be happy with the way it seems you are going.

Just remember, suppressors are like tattoos - after the first you will want more and more! :)

gingib 08-08-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -HIC- (Post 12633651)
I would normally tell you to call up to SilencerShop and talk to those guys about your pending purchase. However, now that SilencerCo and SilencerShop are at odds on the legality of the post 41p kiosks SShop does not sell SilencerCo anymore and they will not give you honest advice on their products. There is a lot of good information in this thread. I am sure you will be happy with the way it seems you are going.

Just remember, suppressors are like tattoos - after the first you will want more and more! :)

Hmmmm I did not know that. I was just looking at the Kiosk info on their website. That is new to me so I am sort of confused on that route versus in person

I don't think I will want more, I can use this on my .223, 300blk, and 308 plus both my deer rifles :D

here are my top choices as of now: TB Ultra 7 CB, Omega 300, Sandman S, Crux Ark30 7.5, and YHM 4300 or 3300 TI

taylormade820 08-08-2017 01:53 PM

just make sure if you are going to use an SBR or pistol length barrel that your can is rated for it. I didn't....

gingib 08-08-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outbreaker (Post 12633207)
I own 3 YHM suppressors with one in jail. If you were closer I would let you shoot them. They were the only company for the longest time with a .300RUM rated suppressor.

Their QD system is awesome. Solid consistent lock up and all the moving parts are on the mount not the can. Easy to replace since they are a non NFA item.

Yes I currently have one on my gun. A YHM QD mount. When I go with my buddy he throws his YHM can on my gun as he wants everyone shooting supressed;)b

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylormade820 (Post 12633721)
just make sure if you are going to use an SBR or pistol length barrel that your can is rated for it. I didn't....

Yes I have a 10.5 inch 300 BLK and most cans are rated down to 8 inch 300 BLK's

bermise 08-08-2017 02:00 PM

KAC 762 QDC can is the best for me. Has the least POI shift of the 9 different 30 cal cans I've used. Best attachment method IMO. Sound reduction is on par with all the other good brands (28dB).

gingib 08-08-2017 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bermise (Post 12633751)
KAC 762 QDC can is the best for me. Has the least POI shift of the 9 different 30 cal cans I've used. Best attachment method IMO. Sound reduction is on par with all the other good brands (28dB).

I will look into them. Most I have seen have sound reduction of 32-33 DB....so 28 seems a little low.

Edited: THEY are out of my price range. Don't want to spend over $1000

bermise 08-08-2017 02:14 PM

Knight's is known for true specs. Some companies claim peak numbers on their specs. Durability and the low POI shift are its selling points.

-HIC- 08-08-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingib (Post 12633716)
Hmmmm I did not know that. I was just looking at the Kiosk info on their website. That is new to me so I am sort of confused on that route versus in person

I don't think I will want more, I can use this on my .223, 300blk, and 308 plus both my deer rifles :D

here are my top choices as of now: TB Ultra 7 CB, Omega 300, Sandman S, Crux Ark30 7.5, and YHM 4300 or 3300 TI

if you read 41p like I do, I tend to side with SilencerCo on the legality. I would advice you call SilencerCo and ask them directly about it. Having said that, SilencerShop probably sells/supplies the most suppressors nationwide. ATF may have already came down if the kiosks were an issue.

Of the cans you have listed I have shot most, Crux being the exception. They are all great in my opinion. It will come down to weight, attach method, muzzle device price (if QD) and to throw this in they all sound different and everyone likes a different tone. You cannot just go by the rated decibel reduction, some louder rated cans sound better imho. Kind of a Ford, Chevy or Dodge thing. Seems you are doing your research, the only thing left to do is find those cans and hear them in person. I suspect you will make your choice at that time. Have fun!

ultrastealth 08-08-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 12630199)
thunderbeast ultra 7 or crux

yhm has a titanium can also

Thunderbeast is far and away the best. ;)b


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