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rsquared 10-12-2016 09:31 AM

Drawn for Laguna Atascosa Archery Exotic
 
I got drawn for this archery hunt Nov 18-22 and as I understand it, this is the first year for this to be administered via TPWD.
I am reading thru the old posts, but also wonder how much different this hunt will be from prior years archery hunts.

I have never been to LAWR and wanted to see who else got drawn and is planning to go.
It also looks like you can't take non hunting guests on this hunt, so
I am interested in joining up with some other TBH'ers for this hunt

who is going?

Jay

ultrastealth 10-12-2016 09:32 AM

I was also drawn, and I know absolutely nothing about Laguna Atascosa. Maybe we can team up. My son will be coming as well. I have experience hunting nilgai, just not at Laguna.
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Adthomps 10-12-2016 09:40 AM

I got drawn as well. Good to see others on here were drawn too. I have never been there and never hunted nilgai. Should be alot of fun! Adam 325-518-4577

mhunter6 10-12-2016 09:48 AM

I am pending second draw for this hunt. I am curious of those who got drawn, what is the time frame you have to accept and pay for the permit before it goes to second draw? I am curious mainly because these refuge hunts have so many more spots available I can see where there might be a chance for a second draw.

rsquared 10-12-2016 09:49 AM

the note says i have until 10/27 to purchase the permit

mhunter6 10-12-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsquared (Post 11785279)
the note says i have until 10/27 to purchase the permit

Thanks!

Etxnoodler 10-12-2016 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsquared (Post 11785279)
the note says i have until 10/27 to purchase the permit

Yup

ArcoCazador 10-12-2016 01:20 PM

I got drawn for 11/25-11/29

ajcarricktx 10-12-2016 03:09 PM

I got drawn for the 18-22 as well. I know two others from around here that were also.

Palehorse 10-12-2016 04:13 PM

The nilgai at LA were culled pretty heavily this year and last year by helicopter. They shot about 80 this year and I think 200 last year. It might be some pretty tough hunting this season.

Grizz83 10-12-2016 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palehorse (Post 11786871)
The nilgai at LA were culled pretty heavily this year and last year by helicopter. They shot about 80 this year and I think 200 last year. It might be some pretty tough hunting this season.

I knew they did this, but I never read any total numbers. Thanks.

I'll either be at LRGV Nov 17-20 or Laguna Nov 25-29. Got drawn for both, but will only choose 1. Still undecided.

jake25 10-12-2016 04:54 PM

I got drawn for Laguna 18th-22nd not sure my dad can make it so i will most likely be solo. Iv never hunted Laguna or nilgai. If anybody would like to Team up 8302990248

Swamphunterfw 10-12-2016 08:25 PM

Me my brother and a Friend got drawn too , 9 hr drive there .... Think it will be worth it ? I didn't know about the culling they did

Azzy 10-12-2016 08:36 PM

I got drawn the same date. Kinda sucks they would do a culling before they opened it for hunters that would've taken care of the problem. Also got drawn for LRGV in January, not sure what to do

Big Norty 10-12-2016 08:40 PM

Ready
 
I also got drawn with my brother and a friend. Should be a good time.
So I guess it will be alot of walking.
Looks like a great place.
Name is Justin Norton
If anyone has any info on the area I would love to know.
Good Luck to everyone

Etxnoodler 10-12-2016 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzy (Post 11787799)
I got drawn the same date. Kinda sucks they would do a culling before they opened it for hunters that would've taken care of the problem. Also got drawn for LRGV in January, not sure what to do

Hunters don't kill near enough to help.

BigRed323 10-12-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Etxnoodler (Post 11787939)
Hunters don't kill near enough to help.

Yup. Laguna has been hunted for the past who knows how many years. That's why they brought in helicopters.

NAVY CHIEF 10-12-2016 09:26 PM

Helicopter culling before a hunt...and sounds like they drew a ton of people....good luck if yall decide to go....you will need it!

rsquared 10-12-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAVY CHIEF (Post 11788013)
Helicopter culling before a hunt...and sounds like they drew a ton of people....good luck if yall decide to go....you will need it!

Don't be a hater Chief ��

We go to granger despite the heli hunts

DoubleB20 10-13-2016 09:29 AM

I was also drawn for this hunt and will be alone. Never been there but I may have a local contact, trying to locate him 817.368.3337

Brian

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Etxnoodler 10-13-2016 05:12 PM

my dad and I will be there.

DG1989 10-14-2016 08:39 AM

We got drawn, anyone know how the population is after the cull? Probably gonna call and talk to a park ranger this afternoon, 9 hr drive ahead of us if we make it down there.

Swamphunterfw 10-14-2016 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG1989 (Post 11792977)
We got drawn, anyone know how the population is after the cull? Probably gonna call and talk to a park ranger this afternoon, 9 hr drive ahead of us if we make it down there.

What did they say ?

DG1989 10-16-2016 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swamphunterfw (Post 11795898)

What did they say ?

Never got around to calling them. Remind me Monday Jo.

Kirby86 10-18-2016 09:17 PM

Just found out I got drawn for the 11/18-22nd. All I know about Nilgai is that they're tough!

DPerez905 10-19-2016 05:07 PM

My brother (nannyslammer) and I have been hunting the refuge for the past 5 years and killed 8 nilgai during that time with rifle and bow. The nilgai population has since decreased drastically. The first year we hunted for 4 days and saw anywhere from 20-30 nilgai a day. Last year which was our last due to the eradication of nilgai by helicopters. We had 4 guys in our group and only saw 1 calf nilgai in 4 days of hunting. It's a very tough and challenging hunt but can be very rewarding if in the right spot. Good luck to all who are going and watch out for rattlesnakes. There is no shortage of them.


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gemini2759 10-19-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPerez905 (Post 11813951)
My brother (nannyslammer) and I have been hunting the refuge for the past 5 years and killed 8 nilgai during that time with rifle and bow. The nilgai population has since decreased drastically. The first year we hunted for 4 days and saw anywhere from 20-30 nilgai a day. Last year which was our last due to the eradication of nilgai by helicopters. We had 4 guys in our group and only saw 1 calf nilgai in 4 days of hunting. It's a very tough and challenging hunt but can be very rewarding if in the right spot. Good luck to all who are going and watch out for rattlesnakes. There is no shortage of them.


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Agreed. I've been hunting there for at least 10 years. Been seeing more deer and a lot less nilgai the last two. This tick eradication quarantine is all bogus. Good friend of mine has cattle within the quarantine zone and has his cattle checked often. None of those squirly ticks found in over a year.

DPerez905 10-19-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gemini2759 (Post 11814566)
Agreed. I've been hunting there for at least 10 years. Been seeing more deer and a lot less nilgai the last two. This tick eradication quarantine is all bogus. Good friend of mine has cattle within the quarantine zone and has his cattle checked often. None of those squirly ticks found in over a year.



Yeah in all honesty it has been within the last two years that the nilgai population has been very minimal out there. And I agree I haven't seen more deer until last year and seen some really really nice bucks.


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hogdaddy 10-20-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPerez905 (Post 11813951)
My brother (nannyslammer) and I have been hunting the refuge for the past 5 years and killed 8 nilgai during that time with rifle and bow. The nilgai population has since decreased drastically. The first year we hunted for 4 days and saw anywhere from 20-30 nilgai a day. Last year which was our last due to the eradication of nilgai by helicopters. We had 4 guys in our group and only saw 1 calf nilgai in 4 days of hunting. It's a very tough and challenging hunt but can be very rewarding if in the right spot. Good luck to all who are going and watch out for rattlesnakes. There is no shortage of them.


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wish you and the crew well with whatever is next. same story here 2 yr's ago saw one on stand, last yr none. feels like it has been done, like we rode a good horse into the ground. never looked forward so much to a place that handed out regular whoppings

when one door closes another opens, finally reached a point (retired) where i can do a two week trip spring turkey and another in fall for deer doing DIY public in Nebraska.

thinking there is going to be a large turnover of people in future, good luck to all the old faces and the new also.

final tally 2nilgai bow, 2 with gun, & whitetail buck the last day i hunted gonna miss the old girl.

BigRed323 10-20-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemini2759 (Post 11814566)
Agreed. I've been hunting there for at least 10 years. Been seeing more deer and a lot less nilgai the last two. This tick eradication quarantine is all bogus. Good friend of mine has cattle within the quarantine zone and has his cattle checked often. None of those squirly ticks found in over a year.

The point of the quarantine is to keep it that way.

DPerez905 10-20-2016 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogdaddy (Post 11818775)
wish you and the crew well with whatever is next. same story here 2 yr's ago saw one on stand, last yr none. feels like it has been done, like we rode a good horse into the ground. never looked forward so much to a place that handed out regular whoppings



when one door closes another opens, finally reached a point (retired) where i can do a two week trip spring turkey and another in fall for deer doing DIY public in Nebraska.



thinking there is going to be a large turnover of people in future, good luck to all the old faces and the new also.



final tally 2nilgai bow, 2 with gun, & whitetail buck the last day i hunted gonna miss the old girl.



Yeah we found a better alternative for nilgai. Changed phones and I don't have your number anymore. Shoot me a text and we'll talk.


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DoubleB20 10-21-2016 09:52 PM

Man, I hate to lose my 10 points for exotics, but it sure doesn't seem very promising. Guess I should've done some research before I put in for it!

Etxnoodler 10-22-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleB20 (Post 11822644)
Man, I hate to lose my 10 points for exotics, but it sure doesn't seem very promising. Guess I should've done some research before I put in for it!

You won't loose 10 exotic points. The NWR hunts are there own category's and this is the first year. The tpwd exotic is a different category.

TalonErickson7 10-24-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ajcarricktx (Post 11786600)
I got drawn for the 18-22 as well. I know two others from around here that were also.

I was also drawn for the hunt

ajcarricktx 10-24-2016 02:15 PM

Hope to meet some of you TBH brothers there. I will be camping at the county park.


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trophytrout1 10-28-2016 12:28 PM

Is it worth going?
 
Just found out that I got drawn today.. Is it worth going all the way down if the Nilgai are that scarce? I appreciate any input. I will also be probably going solo if someone wants to team up. Also curious how far should one go in?

mhunter6 10-28-2016 01:19 PM

I just got drawn on second draw for archery exotic. I too am debating even going. I did hear the cull was only in areas closed to hunting. So maybe it isn't too bad.

DPerez905 10-28-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mhunter6 (Post 11847511)
I just got drawn on second draw for archery exotic. I too am debating even going. I did hear the cull was only in areas closed to hunting. So maybe it isn't too bad.



Where was it that you heard that information?


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mhunter6 10-28-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DPerez905 (Post 11848369)
Where was it that you heard that information?


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Honestly I want to say it was on here. Perhaps one of the other threads for the deer or rifle hunts. I believe someone called the management down there and was told that the nilgai are plentiful in the hunt compartments and culled from areas closed to hunting. To be clear i have never been there or talked to anyone down there so I have no proof of that.


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DPerez905 10-28-2016 06:27 PM

Only reason I'm asking is because the management is probably going to tell people that just so they don't discourage people from coming and them losing money by not having as many hunters. I don't honestly see why they would just cull from certain units when the fever tick can be carried by those in the allowed hunt units. It's obvious that hunters in the past haven't shot enough to make a dent in the population so therefore they hired the helicopters. But why would they limit them on how many nilgai can be shot and what areas?


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mhunter6 10-28-2016 10:38 PM

Drawn for Laguna Atascosa Archery Exotic
 
Again... I will restate,I have never
been there but in my experience helicopter surveys/ culls are kind of overstated. I hunt a few times a year on a place near dilley. They do a survey/ hog hunt via helicopter every year and rarely do they see a fraction of the bucks and population count is always vastly smaller than camera surveys. So unless they really spent the money on multiple days flying and culling, I doubt that had a too detrimental affect. Just my opinion.


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frh290 10-28-2016 11:19 PM

My brother in law and I were also drawn, for the dec. 2-6 hunt, and have been doing as much research as we can. My brother in law spoke to a park worker and was told the cull was done on the property north of the channel.

ThwackAttack 10-28-2016 11:37 PM

I me and a buddy we're also drawn for nov 18-22.

Nobody has mentioned hogs. Is this place have a good hog population?


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gemini2759 10-29-2016 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThwackAttack (Post 11849470)
I me and a buddy we're also drawn for nov 18-22.

Nobody has mentioned hogs. Is this place have a good hog population?


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Yep. Good amount of bacon there.

DaFountainBow 10-29-2016 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPerez905 (Post 11848683)
Only reason I'm asking is because the management is probably going to tell people that just so they don't discourage people from coming and them losing money by not having as many hunters. I don't honestly see why they would just cull from certain units when the fever tick can be carried by those in the allowed hunt units. It's obvious that hunters in the past haven't shot enough to make a dent in the population so therefore they hired the helicopters. But why would they limit them on how many nilgai can be shot and what areas?


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They only culled in unit 4, which is closed to hunting. They are allowing hunters to attempt to clean up the populations in other units before deciding if they need to cull hunting units after season. That info came from the visitor center staff.


Be still, Be Quiet, Be ready.
D.

BigRed323 10-29-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFountainBow (Post 11849890)
They only culled in unit 4, which is closed to hunting. They are allowing hunters to attempt to clean up the populations in other units before deciding if they need to cull hunting units after season. That info came from the visitor center staff.


Be still, Be Quiet, Be ready.
D.

I don't buy that info one bit. Hunters have never been able to make a dent in the population so why would they decide to leave some for hunters during an actual quarantine?

DaFountainBow 10-29-2016 03:10 PM

Just posting what I was told and what I read.

http://m.brownsvilleherald.com/news/....html?mode=jqm

I guess we will see what we see when the dates arrive. I am not gonna let it dampen my hunt though.



Be still, Be Quiet, Be ready.
D.

Towboater 10-29-2016 06:31 PM

I got drawn for the Nov 18-22. I paid for the permit but now I have to work those days. Is it allowed to let someone else have the permit?

Etxnoodler 10-29-2016 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Towboater (Post 11851513)
I got drawn for the Nov 18-22. I paid for the permit but now I have to work those days. Is it allowed to let someone else have the permit?

Nope. Only the person drawn can use it.

TalonErickson7 10-30-2016 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etxnoodler (Post 11852644)
Nope. Only the person drawn can use it.



What makes you so sure of this?



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