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bphillips 02-07-2018 07:50 PM

257wby Bullets?
 
What’s you go to for dropping a big whitetail in his tracks? This would be on big Mexico bucks with no concern for meat saving just for making sure a buck runs in the thick brush as little as possible. Also shots would be 200ish max

2Lazy2P 02-07-2018 08:04 PM

I'd be looking at Partitions or Accubonds at weatherby speeds

EZ-10RANCH 02-07-2018 08:10 PM

I use the 110 grain accubonds and have had great results.

Maxlab 02-07-2018 08:10 PM

110 Accubonds is what I have been using for the last 10 years on my 257 WBY. I am thinking of trying out the ELD-X from Hornady. My buddy shoots them and they do a ton of damage, softball size exit holes.

Colton 02-07-2018 08:11 PM

A strong bullet and shoulder shots usually anchor them for me

bphillips 02-07-2018 08:21 PM

I was looking hard at Accubonds. Chad at Custom Reloads of Dallas suggested the 115 berger vld with what I told him which kind of caught me off guard at 200yd or less and 3300-3400fps.

2Lazy2P 02-07-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bphillips (Post 13167679)
I was looking hard at Accubonds. Chad at Custom Reloads of Dallas suggested the 115 berger vld with what I told him which kind of caught me off guard at 200yd or less and 3300-3400fps.

No experiece with the Bergers in the weatherby but when run hard out of my sendero 25-06 they can be nasty.

bphillips 02-07-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Lazy2P (Post 13167714)
No experiece with the Bergers in the weatherby but when run hard out of my sendero 25-06 they can be nasty.

In a good way?

Thwackdaddy 02-07-2018 08:37 PM

Ive shot countless deer with my vanguard sporter. Made the switch from 120gr partitions last year to the 110gr Accubonds (which are more accurate out of my rifle) shot 3 deer last year and 4 this year. Everyone hit in front of the shoulder at the base of the neck. All 7 DRT, not one step. All at 200 yards or less. Zero bullet pass throughs but you dont need a pass through or bloodtrail if you smack em on the stop button

RR 314 02-07-2018 08:38 PM

I shoot 100 gr. Barnes TSX in the .257 STW and have never had a deer (or hog) take a step. I am going to try a load with the accubonds when I get some time, but Barnes have been good for me at around 3825 fps.

2Lazy2P 02-07-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bphillips (Post 13167723)
In a good way?

More meat damage than I like but very much DRT.

hweissert 02-07-2018 08:42 PM

I’ve shot the 115 vld in mine for years. They are pretty devastating. Way way better performer for me than the 110 accubond

clay4626 02-07-2018 09:00 PM

sorry wrong thread

2Lazy2P 02-07-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by clay4626 (Post 13167796)
There's not two much to trouble shoot on a elec water.
As said above make sure the circuit breaker hasn't tripped
Most elec water heaters are hardwired. there should be a panel where the wire enters the heater. turn off the circuit breaker and remove the panel.
If you have a meter turn on the breaker and check for 220 between the two wires that don't go to ground or you should have 110 on each leg to ground.
if that's good then find where the heating element is and check there to see if you have 220 across the heating element. turn the thermostat all the way up.
If you have 220 across the heating element and no hot water then the element is bad.
If thermostat is at max temp and no power at element then you have a thermostat problem

I've never hit a deer with an electric water heater but if you could push it fast enough I bet it would do the job

Artos 02-07-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RR 314 (Post 13167736)
I shoot 100 gr. Barnes TSX in the .257 STW and have never had a deer (or hog) take a step. I am going to try a load with the accubonds when I get some time, but Barnes have been good for me at around 3825 fps.

I do not own one 'yet' but help a couple buddies & load the Barnes for them & feedback is good. I've also loaded the accubond but they say the Barnes group better.

You must have a long bbl...:)

bphillips 02-07-2018 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Lazy2P (Post 13167741)
More meat damage than I like but very much DRT.

Hunting for horns mostly over there anyway;)b
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Originally Posted by hweissert (Post 13167745)
Iíve shot the 115 vld in mine for years. They are pretty devastating. Way way better performer for me than the 110 accubond

May go that route then

bphillips 02-07-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RR 314 (Post 13167736)
I shoot 100 gr. Barnes TSX in the .257 STW and have never had a deer (or hog) take a step. I am going to try a load with the accubonds when I get some time, but Barnes have been good for me at around 3825 fps.

Geez that is really pushing on a 100gr

Trophy7 02-07-2018 09:14 PM

I shoot a 100 gr. Spire Point and they don’t go very far. Out of the 4 deer I killed this past season, the furthest one went about 30 yards and fell over (all shots were behind the shoulder). All 11 hogs I killed were DRT...either shoulder or neck shots.

Cull hunter 02-07-2018 09:18 PM

What length barrel? 100 grain spires in all of our vanguards with 24 inch barrels. Group great and turn things into jelly

ttaxidermy 02-07-2018 09:21 PM

257wby Bullets?
 
Bobby I shot that giant mule deer with a 115gr Nosler Partition Hand load out of my 25-06.

I hit him in the base of the neck at over 300 yards. Folded him up.

His neck, in that area, was as big or bigger than a 5 gallon buck and it was a complete pass through.

Made a believer out of me.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...244cdf2c24.jpg

bphillips 02-07-2018 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cull hunter (Post 13167858)
What length barrel? 100 grain spires in all of our vanguards with 24 inch barrels. Group great and turn things into jelly

24Ē also
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Originally Posted by ttaxidermy (Post 13167868)
Bobby I shot that giant mule deer with a 115gr Nosler Partition Hand load out of my 25-06.

I hit him in the base of the neck at over 300 yards. Folded him up.

His neck, in that area, was as big or bigger than a 5 gallon buck and it was a complete pass through.

Made a believer out of me.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...244cdf2c24.jpg

So what Iím getting here is anything out of a 257wby will drop em haha

ttaxidermy 02-07-2018 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bphillips (Post 13167909)
24” also

So what I’m getting here is anything out of a 257wby will drop em haha

I would stay away from the 100gr bullets.. I've shot a couple in Brady with my .257 WBY Mag using 100 grainers and they do not edit on those small deer.. What was left of the bullet was Right under the skin.. To much speed for that light of a bullet IMO, IF you want a blood trail.
Hell I hit one of those 230lb Mexico buck with a 140gr twice, out of my 7mm08, and no exit.
Both shots where 2" apart and he still acted like he wasnt even hit for a few seconds after the 2nd hit him..

Mike D 02-07-2018 09:39 PM

257wby Bullets?
 
Iíve dropped em with the 115 ballistic tips and 115 Bergers but I prefer the Berger.

I find it comical when folks say ďI shot him in the neck (or head) and he dropped right thereĒ.

Well duh...........


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RR 314 02-07-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bphillips (Post 13167841)
Geez that is really pushing on a 100gr

Going from memory that is with about 73 gr of RL22. Pretty good load for a small chunk of copper.

ttaxidermy 02-07-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 13167931)
Iíve dropped em with the 115 ballistic tips and 115 Bergers but a prefer the Berger.

I find it comical when folks say ďI shot him in the neck (or head) and he dropped right thereĒ.

Well duh...........


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In my case the penetration is what I was highlighting. Yea neck shots generally fold them..

Radar 02-07-2018 09:45 PM

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I use Nosler Partition 115 gr in my 257 Weatherby.

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I shot my last Axis thru the shoulder and this bullet was just underneath the skin on the opposite side. The shot was a little over a 130 yards.

texas shag 02-07-2018 10:04 PM

Have always been fond of partitions in that caliber. Hold together well at the high velocities.

mzurovec 02-07-2018 10:17 PM

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Bust him with that new SAUM and a 143 ELD-X!

I guess you never sold this beauty?

bphillips 02-07-2018 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mzurovec (Post 13168115)
Bust him with that new SAUM and a 143 ELD-X!

I guess you never sold this beauty?

Nope wasnít going any lower on $ so decided to keep it. Not taking the SAUM and leaving it a whole season in Mexico got too much $ tied up in it haha

ttaxidermy 02-08-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bphillips (Post 13168170)
Nope wasnít going any lower on $ so decided to keep it. Not taking the SAUM and leaving it a whole season in Mexico got too much $ tied up in it haha

Oh no. Your going to leave it over there?
I'll trade you that old ugly green one back for that beauty...:D It's has plenty of power!!!!;)b They might not even steal the green one..
But I need to shoot a couple Nilgai first..

Cottonfish 02-08-2018 07:26 AM

Haven't had anything as accurate in Dad's 26"bbl MKV as the 115gr Berger, but have no performance reports on game from it. For the range specified, I'd have a hard time not slinging a 115 or 120gr Partition at 'em. I'm more of a traditional guy at heart.........

Stu

Radar 02-08-2018 07:52 AM

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My rifle has a 24inch barrel, 69grs of RL22, WLRM primers and Nosler 115 gr Partition gave me an avg velocity of 3354 and an SD of 5.

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Bobby, I also have about 50 of Berger 115gr VLD Hunting bullets left that you are more than welcome to use. Just shoot me a PM and I throw em in the mail.

150class 02-08-2018 08:15 AM

Started with spitzers and now shoot 115 vld’s and 110 accubonds

13 critters dead in their tracks, 3 no further then 40 yards, one made it about 125 yards but the shoot was a hair back as he was walking and 310 yard shot.

chrisk 02-08-2018 08:29 AM

I let my neighbor use mine last deer season. I had several boxes of the Spitzers which are 100 grains. He shot two deer with it. One deer didn’t even wiggle, the other he was excited and put a couple shots into it. I found one bullet and it was a pretty mushroomed bullet. I reload Nosler 100 grain Ballistic Tips for it but he decided to use the Spitzers instead. I wanted him to try the NBT’s so I could see the aftermath. Maybe this year.

Muddy Bud 02-08-2018 08:32 AM

I've had the best results with the Accubonds. Haven't had one run off yet. I've also used the 115 gr Berger H VLDs. Those bullets are extremely destructive to internal organs. Leaving the innards immulsified. But never had a pass through, not that it needed it the bullet did exactly as it was supposed too expending all its energy in the animal. Just didn't like loading those things so close to the lands and basically turning my 700 into a single shot that was a little bit of a pain trying to get a unfired round out of the chamber.

Cull hunter 02-08-2018 09:02 AM

In my two vanguards they had trouble grouping anything other than the spire. Have shot them in south Texas for a long time. Under 150 yards go for heart lung. Over that bone is good.

aggie11 02-08-2018 09:03 AM

I shoot the 115 barnes TSX and have had really good luck with them. I have not had one fail to pass through an animal yet and leave a good exit. Have shot a couple 200+- lb boars and they were DRT behind the shoulder. Has been my go to bullet in most of my rifles since i started loading.

bboswell 02-08-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisk (Post 13168706)
I let my neighbor use mine last deer season. I had several boxes of the Spitzers which are 100 grains. He shot two deer with it. One deer didnít even wiggle, the other he was excited and put a couple shots into it. I found one bullet and it was a pretty mushroomed bullet. I reload Nosler 100 grain Ballistic Tips for it but he decided to use the Spitzers instead. I wanted him to try the NBTís so I could see the aftermath. Maybe this year.



At 257 velocities do not plan on an exit with the NBT. Might consider Accubonds IMO

gingib 02-08-2018 09:59 AM

I am shooting Berger's in my .257 reloads. Love my .257

Texans42 02-08-2018 10:13 AM

I run the 115’ @ 3210. Had them over 3350 and things got a little explosive, may of been bad batch or the bullet just didn’t handle the rpms well. Either way dropped it down an no issues.

As far as on game preformance I’m 99% if the time high shoulder or neck/shoulder crease so 99% of my shots are DRT. That’s more shot placement then bullet though.

Mike D 02-08-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddy Bud (Post 13168716)
I've had the best results with the Accubonds. Haven't had one run off yet. I've also used the 115 gr Berger H VLDs. Those bullets are extremely destructive to internal organs. Leaving the innards immulsified. But never had a pass through, not that it needed it the bullet did exactly as it was supposed too expending all its energy in the animal. Just didn't like loading those things so close to the lands and basically turning my 700 into a single shot that was a little bit of a pain trying to get a unfired round out of the chamber.



Iíd like to know how you got the bullet that close to the lands. When doing load development for mine, the bullet would fall out of the case mouth before reaching the lands.

Still is a 1/4Ē gun with factory loads so I donít worry about it.


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trophy8 02-08-2018 01:29 PM

110 accubond man!! Part of me wants that gun back haha

J.B. 02-08-2018 02:52 PM

115 VLDs or 117 GMKs @ 3450-3600 fps is hard to beat. I did a lot of testing and settled on the 115 VLDs. I did not have a good experience with the 100gr Barnes YMMV

JRG_80 02-08-2018 06:35 PM

Hornady Interbond has proven to be a wicked pill to me.

jrg

2Lazy2P 02-08-2018 07:20 PM

Got it figured out yet? Lol

Muddy Bud 02-08-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 13169616)
Iíd like to know how you got the bullet that close to the lands. When doing load development for mine, the bullet would fall out of the case mouth before reaching the lands.

Still is a 1/4Ē gun with factory loads so I donít worry about it.


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In my Weatherby that may be the case but not in my Remington 700.

Mike D 02-08-2018 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddy Bud (Post 13170560)
In my Weatherby that may be the case but not in my Remington 700.



Mine is a custom build on a 700 pattern action. Makes me wonder if they are using a reamer that doesnít meet Weatherby/SAAMI dimensions.

All Weatherby chambers are known to have a lot of freebies.


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bphillips 02-08-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Lazy2P (Post 13170547)
Got it figured out yet? Lol

Yea basically if it comes out of a 257wby at 200yds or less they fall where they were standing haha. Radar was nice enough to send me 50 115vlds so will try those out. Still have some factory Accubonds and spires also

bbqfan5909 02-08-2018 08:21 PM

What gun you shooting out of bud? Got a 257 cdl that shoots factory accubonds well. Haven’t reloaded for this one yet.

bphillips 02-08-2018 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bbqfan5909 (Post 13170718)
What gun you shooting out of bud? Got a 257 cdl that shoots factory accubonds well. Havenít reloaded for this one yet.

WBY Mark V deluxe


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