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Drycreek3189 01-25-2018 04:03 PM

Will it work ?
 
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I put my corral trap up a couple months ago and just installed my "poor boy" trigger today. The pics tell the story if you can see them well enough. The guillotine door is 8' wide and 5' tall and has a nail barely stuck underneath it. A washer is welded onto the nail head and a cable attatched to it. The cable runs through a pulley which is attatched to a T post and then runs to a small tire. The tire is staked with a sucker rod so that it can only go forward. I dug a hole inside the tire and filled it with sweet feed and corn. The idea is that pigs will root the tire forward trying to get at the bait, the nail pulls out and they are trapped.

Has anyone tried this ? See any flaws ? Criticism welcome !

Drycreek3189 01-25-2018 04:05 PM

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T post, pulley, and cable.

TXBRASS 01-25-2018 04:40 PM

Have you been feeding inside the pen already?

If not, feed inside the pen and tire for a few weeks until sign (or game camera pics) show proof of high hog traffic and THEN set the trap and it will catch a lot more pigs at once.

jakhunter 01-25-2018 04:46 PM

Maybe put some kind of locking mechanism where a bigger pig cannot lift the trap door up releasing them back out

Drycreek3189 01-25-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Gold (Post 13132167)
Have you been feeding inside the pen already?

If not, feed inside the pen and tire for a few weeks until sign (or game camera pics) show proof of high hog traffic and THEN set the trap and it will catch a lot more pigs at once.

I fed inside the pen for a while during December, but I suspect the pressure of us deer hunting kept the hogs out. That's what I've always done before but this time I decided to just set and bait. Your method is the best, but I'm an hour away from this place, so that's why I'm doing it like this.

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Originally Posted by jakhunter (Post 13132183)
Maybe put some kind of locking mechanism where a bigger pig cannot lift the trap door up releasing them back out

Ive caught pigs before and they've never been able to escape. Always a first time though. I really haven't had much success catching big hogs in it, mostly 125 lb. and down. Last time I set it I caught 17, mostly pigs, but the sow was hanging around and she caught lead poisoning !

RascalArms 01-25-2018 05:24 PM

IN...I don’t see why that wouldn’t work. Good luck

Drycreek3189 01-25-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RascalArms (Post 13132286)
IN...I donít see why that wouldnít work. Good luck

Thanks ! In the past Iíve used a rather complicated trigger. This one is simple enough to at least try.

JeffK 01-25-2018 07:51 PM

Lead corn into trap and spread corn throughout trap to keep the first one from going straight to the trigger. Which u may have done.

Drycreek3189 01-25-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 13132762)
Lead corn into trap and spread corn throughout trap to keep the first one from going straight to the trigger. Which u may have done.

Nope. But that's what I should have done, so I'll do it tomorrow when I go back to set up my cell cam on it.

Radar 01-25-2018 10:08 PM

You do know if that rig catches a herd of them, I will hold old Sarge for ransom till you come down here and catch another herd.:D

dustoffer 01-25-2018 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 13132762)
Lead corn into trap and spread corn throughout trap to keep the first one from going straight to the trigger. Which u may have done.

Yep--

texasdeerhunter 01-25-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 13132762)
Lead corn into trap and spread corn throughout trap to keep the first one from going straight to the trigger. Which u may have done.

This is what I would do. Make sure as many as possible go in before one of them sets the trap off

deerwatcher51 01-26-2018 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jakhunter (Post 13132183)
Maybe put some kind of locking mechanism where a bigger pig cannot lift the trap door up releasing them back out

I was driving through my pasture once and noticed a young female in one of my traps with a big boar on the outside of the trap. By the time I got to the camp house and back with my rifle, the boar had pushed open the door of the trap and let the female out. True love...but it shows it can happen.

gingib 01-26-2018 09:01 AM

would love to see more pics of the trigger/door with the nail and the tire close up!!!


That will work well if you get them patterned inside.

Good luck and awesome wide gate. I like it

Drycreek3189 01-26-2018 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 13133342)
You do know if that rig catches a herd of them, I will hold old Sarge for ransom till you come down here and catch another herd.:D

Sarge says "Say what ?"


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Originally Posted by gingib (Post 13134090)
would love to see more pics of the trigger/door with the nail and the tire close up!!!


That will work well if you get them patterned inside.

Good luck and awesome wide gate. I like it

I'll get some better pics today when I rebait.

Smokeater 01-26-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 13132762)
Lead corn into trap and spread corn throughout trap to keep the first one from going straight to the trigger. Which u may have done.

This. The last time we did a big pen, we trickled a bit of corn all along the borders of the trap to the back where the trigger was. They'd just keep going around the pig next to em instead of going straight to the back....caught all 42 of em!lol Medium sized sows down to lil 5lb spotted oinkers.

Drycreek3189 01-26-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gingib (Post 13134090)
would love to see more pics of the trigger/door with the nail and the tire close up!!!


That will work well if you get them patterned inside.

Good luck and awesome wide gate. I like it

I got my cell cam up today along with the external battery and solar panel. Spread some more corn in the trap also. Pics of the trigger mechanics will have to wait until tomorrow. Not enough signal.

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 09:43 AM

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Nail goes through tube and is barely holding the gate in the center.

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 09:45 AM

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Pulley on a T post at approximately the same height as the nail.

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 09:48 AM

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Tire staked at the front prohibits any movement except forward.

Chew 01-27-2018 09:50 AM

Good ideal with the tire. Shouldn't be long!

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 09:50 AM

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Cell cam pic taken after spreading corn trail.

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chew (Post 13136938)
Good ideal with the tire. Shouldn't be long!

Thee or four of them won't ever make it to the trap Bobby. They died of lead poisoning last night. :D

This one weighed 220/240 according to girth measurement. Another two ran and I didn't try to find them.

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 09:57 AM

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This one weighed around a hundred judging by looks and the fact that the old fart could barely get him up on the back bumper of the cart !

All these hogs were taken with a Mossberg rebarreled to 6.8 SPC with an ATN Night Arrow four power NV scope. This one was DRT at 200 yards behind my feeder. Pure luck (but I was aiming at him:D).

Chew 01-27-2018 10:01 AM

Nice job. We're you hunting near the trap? Hog light on feeder? Thermal?

Drycreek3189 01-27-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chew (Post 13136963)
Nice job. We're you hunting near the trap? Hog light on feeder? Thermal?

No, I was hunting in my creek bottom. No hog light, but we have in the past. This is a Gen II night vision scope, about the cheapest decent one I could afford. It does really well to 200/250 yd depending on moonlight. Last night was cloudy and I could still easily see the smaller pig at 200 yd. on a really moonlight night it is awesome for Gen II. I would love to have thermal but I can't justify the cost. I have a good IR fladhlight, but I didn't need it last night. You can see it mounted toward the end of the handguard.

Drycreek3189 01-31-2018 08:55 PM

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Well, the coons have found the corn. Imagine that !

gingib 02-01-2018 11:32 AM

I see the pics now! I love it!

I may have to do this

Drycreek3189 02-01-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gingib (Post 13149776)
I see the pics now! I love it!

I may have to do this

I'm getting some flashback off of the panels, but I don't know whether to cut a square out of it or not. I can still see my gate is in the up position, I guess that's all that counts.

Ironman 02-01-2018 02:55 PM

Maybe paint it flat black in front of camera?

Drycreek3189 02-01-2018 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironman (Post 13150278)
Maybe paint it flat black in front of camera?

I did that Tueday, and it helped enough that I can see the gate. Before that I was getting lots of flash from the IR. I may just go ahead and cut a little square out in front of the camera or move it up on the pole and see how that does.

gingib 02-02-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189 (Post 13149848)
I'm getting some flashback off of the panels, but I don't know whether to cut a square out of it or not. I can still see my gate is in the up position, I guess that's all that counts.

Put the camera on the outside and in between panels. With the sensor in between the 4x4 sqaures. It works good for me. Gotta tighten the strap so it doesnt move.

I won't put mine inside bc a hog can ram it...but I will put it on the outside 3 feet off the ground with the housing of the camera on the back side of the panels

Gunnyart 02-02-2018 08:59 AM

In for pics of lots of caught hogs

Drycreek3189 02-02-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gingib (Post 13152097)
Put the camera on the outside and in between panels. With the sensor in between the 4x4 sqaures. It works good for me. Gotta tighten the strap so it doesnt move.

I won't put mine inside bc a hog can ram it...but I will put it on the outside 3 feet off the ground with the housing of the camera on the back side of the panels

It is on the outside, but not right up against the panel. The closer it is, the easier to get away from the flashback, but when those hogs get excited they rattle the hell out of that pen, so I didn't want it close enough that the panel hits the camera when they start trying to get out. That sucker costs too much to be busted by battering from hogs. It's probably 8/9 inches from the panel. Probably gonna leave it like that for awhile and see what happens. If the hogs don't find it and go in, it's a moot point anyway :(

Drycreek3189 02-02-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunnyart (Post 13152132)
In for pics of lots of caught hogs

Me and you both brother, these sons-of-beaches are killing me !

elgato 02-02-2018 09:11 AM

WE've had good luck with circle traps. Hope you get them all.

Another option to consider depending on your success with the trigger is to basically create a squeeze shoot entrance.Meaning align panels in such a way that the hogs can push their way into the traps but can't get back out. Pour corn from outside thru the shoot, then the pigs follow the corn. From there we place most of the corn at opposite end from entrance so pigs gravitate over there.

Using this system there is no limit to how many hogs can enter. I saw the design for this on you tube. Circle C trap.

Good luck.

gingib 02-02-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189 (Post 13152139)
It is on the outside, but not right up against the panel. The closer it is, the easier to get away from the flashback, but when those hogs get excited they rattle the hell out of that pen, so I didn't want it close enough that the panel hits the camera when they start trying to get out. That sucker costs too much to be busted by battering from hogs. It's probably 8/9 inches from the panel. Probably gonna leave it like that for awhile and see what happens. If the hogs don't find it and go in, it's a moot point anyway :(

Strap it around the panels itself so the camera is sitting flush with the panels but on the outside. I have several wireless cameras and have trapped many pigs and that's how i do it with no issues.

Once they are trapped I turn the camera off so I don't get pics non stop

gingib 02-02-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by elgato (Post 13152172)
WE've had good luck with circle traps. Hope you get them all.

Another option to consider depending on your success with the trigger is to basically create a squeeze shoot entrance.Meaning align panels in such a way that the hogs can push their way into the traps but can't get back out. Pour corn from outside thru the shoot, then the pigs follow the corn. From there we place most of the corn at opposite end from entrance so pigs gravitate over there.

Using this system there is no limit to how many hogs can enter. I saw the design for this on you tube. Circle C trap.

Good luck.

Is this similar to a figure 6 trap? I didn't have any luck with that style

Mike Fangman 02-02-2018 11:15 AM

Very simple, yet great concept.

Drycreek3189 02-06-2018 09:49 AM

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A couple mods to the trap. I moved the camera up the post to get rid of the flashback from the IR. Mo' betta !

Then, since deer have been entering the trap to eat corn, I stretched a wire across the outside of the gate opening. Too low for deer, too high for hogs (I hope). Several deer paced the opening last night, but never came in. Now....if I just had a coyote to eat the coons......

Drycreek3189 02-06-2018 09:51 AM

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Deer wanting corn:D

Tshelly 02-06-2018 04:11 PM

We did the same thing except we ordered a $150 electronic latch. We welded the latch to the top of the gate then ran telephone cord back 200 yards to a dozer battery. We triggered it when the covert said they were all in there. This only works if you live close to your trap and can access it. This one was at our house. We caught 23 the first time


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GarGuy 02-06-2018 04:37 PM

The best trigger i have used is just a screen door hook. Tie the cable on the hook and latch it to the door.

Tshelly 02-06-2018 04:45 PM

We did the same thing except we ordered a $150 electronic latch. We welded the latch to the top of the gate then ran telephone cord back 200 yards to a dozer battery. We triggered it when the covert said they were all in there. This only works if you live close to your trap and can access it. This one was at our house. We caught 23 the first time


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gingib 02-06-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GarGuy (Post 13163874)
The best trigger i have used is just a screen door hook. Tie the cable on the hook and latch it to the door.

Have any pics?

Bowhica 02-06-2018 05:42 PM

I really like the set up! Tire is brilliant.

Ironman 02-07-2018 10:04 AM

I keep coming back hoping to see pigs in trap.:D

gingib 02-07-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironman (Post 13165851)
I keep coming back hoping to see pigs in trap.:D

Me too

Personally I have never had luck with a big corral trap that was not around a feeder.

I have killed over 75-90 around a feeder last year alone

Drycreek3189 02-07-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironman (Post 13165851)
I keep coming back hoping to see pigs in trap.:D

Every morning I look at my texts ! No hogs yet ! :(

The deer figured out how to get in though ! :D

Ironman 02-10-2018 01:06 PM

Drycreek, I'm beginning to think you don't have a pig problem anymore.:D


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