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BBRU 02-13-2018 10:27 AM

Suppressor Questions
 
Been contemplating purchasing a couple of them. What is the process once decide which ones you want to purchase????

Outbreaker 02-13-2018 10:29 AM

1. Decide trust vs Individual.
2. Purchase.
3. Fill out paperwork,
4. Wait.
5. Wait.
6. Wait.
7. Pick up.

Advantage of trust is many. Advantage of individual ATM is that they are a little faster.

Downside of trust........cost. Downside of Individual.......many.

Tony Pic 02-13-2018 10:36 AM

We did a trust and no looking back.
Here is a link to silencerco's trust. https://silencerco.com/nfa-trust/
We did it through there, had a lawyer sign off on it and away we went. Wait times from paying for item to actually having it in your hands can be up to 9 months. Best thing to do is buy one every three months so the wait time don't seem that long and they keep coming in. The first year is heck :D

QACZ71 02-13-2018 10:37 AM

Waiting is the worst part. Best thing you can do is research the can you want get it purchased and forget about it. Then be happily surprised your paperwork went through ~6+months down the road.

Outbreaker 02-13-2018 10:43 AM

I used Silencershops online trust the first time. Then I had it redone with Sean Cody (SC-Texas on here) and wish I had just done it through him to start with.

-HIC- 02-13-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BBRU (Post 13181856)
Been contemplating purchasing a couple of them. What is the process once decide which ones you want to purchase????


Silencer Shop and SilencerCo are friends again. I have no problem saying just go to the SS website and they will walk you through the entire process. Determine how you want to register them corp, individual or trust. Pick the suppressors you want, add to cart. Pick the trust if needed, add to cart. Pick how many stamps you need, add to cart. Find a Kiosk close to you, or add a paper fingerprint kit to your cart and bust out your favorite card to pay. After that they will contact you to finish up all the paperwork. Wait a touch less than a year, go to your designated local dealer and pick up. I may have left a something out but you get the just. They will walk you through anything that I missed! ;)b

QACZ71 02-13-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbreaker (Post 13181907)
I used Silencershops online trust the first time. Then I had it redone with Sean Cody (SC-Texas on here) and wish I had just done it through him to start with.

What is the difference in his trusts? Is his more thorough for the passing on of NFA Items? Went individual on first one (live and learn) going to put that one on a trust when she’s officially mine and further purchases will be done through it.

Outbreaker 02-13-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by QACZ71 (Post 13183110)
What is the difference in his trusts? Is his more thorough for the passing on of NFA Items? Went individual on first one (live and learn) going to put that one on a trust when she’s officially mine and further purchases will be done through it.

It is about managing who has access of the items and is unable dated for the changes with 41-f.

And he will not interview you to set it up how you need it, rather than shoehorn you into a one size fits all.

BBRU 02-13-2018 07:24 PM

If you had to buy one silencer to range from 22-30 cal, what would it be?

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BBRU 02-13-2018 07:38 PM

Links aren’t working

Outbreaker 02-13-2018 07:44 PM

I use a YHM Phantom TI for that range.

Tony Pic 02-13-2018 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BBRU (Post 13183314)
If you had to buy one silencer to range from 22-30 cal, what would it be?

AAC SD-762 from .223 to .300 win mag rated Awesome with subs and supers.

mako235 02-13-2018 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BBRU (Post 13183314)
If you had to buy one silencer to range from 22-30 cal, what would it be?

22 rimfire? If so, I would use a take apart can like the liberty mystic x

Outbreaker 02-13-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mako235 (Post 13183459)
22 rimfire? If so, I would use a take apart can like the liberty mystic x

If you do rimfire you will need a dedicated rimfire can IMHO

Tony Pic 02-14-2018 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbreaker (Post 13183497)
If you do rimfire you will need a dedicated rimfire can IMHO

That is not a humble opinion...that is fact :D.
Rimfire shoots very dirty and almost all rimfire cans will open for cleaning. I have seen older suppressors that open for maintenance with a key. But the newer cans, nothing to clean as far as you shoot centerfire ammo through it. They don't even open. You will need a dedicated rimfire can.

Outbreaker 02-14-2018 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Pic (Post 13183972)
That is not a humble opinion...that is fact :D.
Rimfire shoots very dirty and almost all rimfire cans will open for cleaning. I have seen older suppressors that open for maintenance with a key. But the newer cans, nothing to clean as far as you shoot centerfire ammo through it. They don't even open. You will need a dedicated rimfire can.

There are now 30 caliber cans that are fully user serviceable just like rimfire cans. So a dedicated rimfire can is no longer fact.

I still feel it is best, but there are 1 and done options.

Tony Pic 02-14-2018 08:24 AM

But would you want to shoot rimfire ammo out of your centerfire can? I wouldn't. Rimfire cans are cheap enough to buy a separate can for. But it is way cool the range of calibers suppressors can handle now. Our cans are about 2 years old, the Gemtech Outback (rimfire)and the AAC SD762and I haven't handled many since. So its good to know that some are becoming serviceable now. I've read that mineral spirits give non serviceable ones a decent cleaning by dipping.

txhunter90 02-14-2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbreaker (Post 13181863)
1. Decide trust vs Individual.
2. Purchase.
3. Fill out paperwork,
4. Wait.
5. Wait.
6. Wait.
7. Pick up.

Advantage of trust is many. Advantage of individual ATM is that they are a little faster.

Downside of trust........cost. Downside of Individual.......many.

You can always do a one shot trust. This is what I did, I can add anyone legally able to posses one to my trust with a sheet of paper. Get one now wait times are down tremendously, individual I got 2 back in 5 and 6 months. I just received my trust back in 9 months.

tanto 02-14-2018 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BBRU (Post 13183314)
If you had to buy one silencer to range from 22-30 cal, what would it be?

Griffin Armament Optimus. Rimfire through 300 win mag + 9mm

WTucker 02-14-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by txhunter90 (Post 13184292)
You can always do a one shot trust. This is what I did, I can add anyone legally able to posses one to my trust with a sheet of paper. Get one now wait times are down tremendously, individual I got 2 back in 5 and 6 months. I just received my trust back in 9 months.

What is a "one-shot" trust?

Outbreaker 02-14-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Pic (Post 13184270)
But would you want to shoot rimfire ammo out of your centerfire can? I wouldn't. Rimfire cans are cheap enough to buy a separate can for. But it is way cool the range of calibers suppressors can handle now. Our cans are about 2 years old, the Gemtech Outback (rimfire)and the AAC SD762and I haven't handled many since. So its good to know that some are becoming serviceable now. I've read that mineral spirits give non serviceable ones a decent cleaning by dipping.

I did not say I would recommend it or do it.

I just said it was an option so a dedicated rimfire can is now an opinion rather than fact.

Outbreaker 02-14-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WTucker (Post 13184307)
What is a "one-shot" trust?

A trust option by silencer shop. You buy a trust that is dedicated to that suppressor. So if you have 5 suppressors you have to carry 5 trust copies and 5 tax stamp copies instead of carrying 1 trust copy and a copy of your tax stamp with you for each suppressor.

Great option if you are buying 1 suppressor.

I will tell you now......do not buy 1 suppressor unless you are willing to buy 5.

I bought 1 and my buddy told me this. I called him nuts.

I have since added 2 more .30 cal cans, a .45 can and a rimfire can. And I really am trying to talk myself out of 2 more.

txhunter90 02-14-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbreaker (Post 13184331)
A trust option by silencer shop. You buy a trust that is dedicated to that suppressor. So if you have 5 suppressors you have to carry 5 trust copies and 5 tax stamp copies instead of carrying 1 trust copy and a copy of your tax stamp with you for each suppressor.

Great option if you are buying 1 suppressor.

I will tell you now......do not buy 1 suppressor unless you are willing to buy 5.

I bought 1 and my buddy told me this. I called him nuts.

I have since added 2 more .30 cal cans, a .45 can and a rimfire can. And I really am trying to talk myself out of 2 more.

One shot trust is a trust for that one suppressor. I can add anyone to it by the signature of a piece of paper. I just have to have a copy of it in my safe and they have to carry the paper around while in possession of the suppressor. I can also take anybody off at any point as well. I bought it for buddies to use and not having to worry about getting my suppressor back. So i just added them and if they keep it no big deal. I only have 1 copy with tax stamp and trust on it. So it is just one piece of paper instead of 2. Didn't really follow on that. But just adding a little more depth to the one shot. You are %100 correct, I bought 3 and looking for more always. I thought I would buy one .30 cal and just transfer them, but that was a lie.

txhunter90 02-14-2018 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BBRU (Post 13183314)
If you had to buy one silencer to range from 22-30 cal, what would it be?

That is a loaded question, alot of great suppressors out there. I would probably get the SilencerCo Omega.


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