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    My son started college this past week. Since I plan to update this thread I won't say where or give names.

    The class was talking about taxes, population, increased costs, and laws the professor said "Illegal immigrants are irrelevant"

    She went on to basically say they don't factor into anything

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    College teachings

    Yikes. It's like any other job...you always have someone whose at the bottom.

    What class? That might be true in an English course.

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        #4
        Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
        My son started college this past week. Since I plan to update this thread I won't say where or give names.

        The class was talking about taxes, population, increased costs, and laws the professor said "Illegal immigrants are irrelevant"

        She went on to basically say they don't factor into anything
        They don't.
        US budget is what 4 Trillion???


        How much do illegals factor into that?
        What is $4Billion divided by $4Trillion?

        That's the percentage we are talking
        Even if that much.


        When you take your emotions out of things and only deal with the money the picture becomes clearer.

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          #5
          Originally posted by texansfan View Post
          They don't.
          US budget is what 4 Trillion???


          How much do illegals factor into that?
          What is $4Billion divided by $4Trillion?

          That's the percentage we are talking
          Even if that much.


          When you take your emotions out of things and only deal with the money the picture becomes clearer.
          Actually they do, and you know the list already.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Traxx View Post
            Actually they do, and you know the list already.
            If you look at tiny segments then yes they do
            But if you look st the entire $4Trillion budget then they don't.

            What effect does illegal immigration have to do with our national defense budget (building bombers not ICE/CBP)?
            With our federal national parks budget?
            NOAA's budget?
            Medicare? Illegals get Medicare now?
            I think they might be able to get Medicaid in certain instances. But what percentage of the budget is that?

            What the professor was saying is that percentage wise illegals are a non factor.

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              #7
              Yes they get medicare and social security and well-fare and wic. Not to mention identity theft, and other non violent crimes. Then there are the violent crimes. Then there are the immigrants that are trying to do it legally whose available visa pool is taken from when amnesty is given. Not to forget the bad name the illegals give to the legal immigrants. I guess that until you personally have to deal with the illegal issue it is "only 4 billion"

              Oh and sorry for the hijack. I will step off the soapbox.

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                #8
                People twist things how they want to. They same professors also make the argument that illegal immigrants are needed to fuel our economy. You can't have it both ways.

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                  #9
                  When my son was at Tech he used to text me all the time during class - "Dad you are not going to believe what the prof just said. He is giving his lefty opinions as fact and he is provably wrong. Do you think I should confront him ? I could easily destroy his argument!"

                  I would tell him that is his call but to remember why he is there - to get a grade. You have to decide whether de-pantsing him in front of everybody is worth it. Sometimes he did but more often he just sat there and fumed.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jerp View Post
                    When my son was at Tech he used to text me all the time during class - "Dad you are not going to believe what the prof just said. He is giving his lefty opinions as fact and he is provably wrong. Do you think I should confront him ? I could easily destroy his argument!"

                    I would tell him that is his call but to remember why he is there - to get a grade. You have to decide whether de-pantsing him in front of everybody is worth it. Sometimes he did but more often he just sat there and fumed.
                    Bingo!!! [emoji322] My daughter has only had two rather benign scenarios. Auburn is rather conservative though. But she understands and laughs with me about it when she text or calls. She wants her A.......that is why she is there......period! Train up your kids to recognize [emoji90] and move on!!![emoji106]

                    Texanfan, I follow your premise to a T!!! If the professor was talking the over-reaching budget in his scenario he would have a point. When broken in silos we can always debate the points......as the % can seem huge. Not sure how the professor was presenting the info honestly.

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                      #11
                      Anyone that believes illegal immigration is insignificant has yet had their lives affected by it. Try having an illegal alien who receives welfare, medicaid, food stamps, child child tax credits, is not insured or bonded and is paid cash under the table so he pays no taxes take work from you because he is able to do it for 25% what you can at your bottom price.

                      Let illegal aliens start taking jobs and dropping the income of doctors, lawyers, politicians and professors and everyone will sing a different tune about the illegal aliens. Imagine showing up for a colonoscopy and Juan, who just jumped the border two weeks ago, is performing the procedure. You'd run out like your pubes were ablaze.

                      The mindset of, "they're not affecting me" is so hypocritical, self-centered and ignorant, those of that mind are beyond help. If you are one who can justify illegal aliens plundering and pillaging our resources, consider this; what would your opinion be if one of these aliens raped and brutally killed your eight year old daughter? But, they're not all bad, right?

                      P.S. - If you say, I should have chosen a different profession, you can kiss my ***.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View Post
                        Anyone that believes illegal immigration is insignificant has yet had their lives affected by it. Try having an illegal alien who receives welfare, medicaid, food stamps, child child tax credits, is not insured or bonded and is paid cash under the table so he pays no taxes take work from you because he is able to do it for 25% what you can at your bottom price.

                        Let illegal aliens start taking jobs and dropping the income of doctors, lawyers, politicians and professors and everyone will sing a different tune about the illegal aliens. Imagine showing up for a colonoscopy and Juan, who just jumped the border two weeks ago, is performing the procedure. You'd run out like your pubes were ablaze.

                        The mindset of, "they're not affecting me" is so hypocritical, self-centered and ignorant, those of that mind are beyond help. If you are one who can justify illegal aliens plundering and pillaging our resources, consider this; what would your opinion be if one of these aliens raped and brutally killed your eight year old daughter? But, they're not all bad, right?

                        P.S. - If you say, I should have chosen a different profession, you can kiss my ***.

                        are you kidding me? "let illegal aliens start taking jobs" what jobs are you talking about? the jobs in the fields and crops that no americans want? good luck getting an american 18 yr old to go pick up watermelons all day in the blazing heat. yet a mexican 13-14 yr old will jump at the chance, its the same as when an american company decides to start manufacturing in china because its cheaper. Maybe youre talking about the construction jobs that younger americans dont want for the same reasons, its easier for them to take a BS loan that the "gubment" sold them and stay in school being educated for jobs that probably wont exist by the time they finish.

                        the illegals your reffering to when you say " aliens raped and brutally killed your eight year old daughter? But, they're not all bad, right? " are the ones with the face tattoos or the ones bringing over hard drugs and human trafficking lanes. most of that you can attribute to the drug war that the US "gubment" funds by chasing the money going back over the border instead of the problems coming this way in the first place because they have an unquenchable thirst for funding the DEA with the money they get from it. Mexico was the 2nd most dangerous country on the planet last year, and yet our troops are half a world away fighting a war nobody sees. The cartels and the face tattoos coming here could be done with if our military was put upon them but it wont happen, because the government is fake enough to put plants like marijuana are on the same scale as heroin and meth. The hard working mexicans coming here are coming here because over there the cartels put their hand in everything and there is no living under them. I'm from the Rio Grande Valley and that place might as well be renamed "north mexico" by now because of all the cartel violence and law enforcement pay offs.

                        maybe they do come here and make money and send it back home. maybe they do work food truck and restaurant jobs to make tax free money. but let me ask you this. How would you feed your family if youleft to work out of the country? would you let your "8yr old daughter" starve in the guatemalan mountains where everyone is under 5'5" because of malnutrition? i dont thing so.

                        oh yeah and if someone makes an appointment to get a colonoscopy from a doctor without looking into where hes from they deserve to get something shoved up their....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View Post

                          P.S. - If you say, I should have chosen a different profession, you can kiss my ***.
                          Im not saying you shouldve chosen a different profession. i would never tell someone that. but before you blame all mexicans for it maybe you should look into source of the problem which just might be inflation and globalization. I used to be a CAD designer, until the company i worked for found out they could hire someone online from another country and get the same skills for less price.

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                            #14
                            I would assume that the OP's son is taking an Economics course. My daughter was taking an Econ 101 class over the summer. It was interesting to see some of the material as I was helping her understand economics.

                            I took a lot of economics when I was in college and illegal immigration was seldom mentioned in the late 70s and early 80's even in the late 80's when I was in grad school.

                            In her econ class it came up several times in the same scenario that the OP mentioned. Why do they feel they have to address it if it isn't an issue? Most economic professors that I had were liberal leaning, even at relatively conservative institutions like Louisiana Tech, where I went.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View Post
                              Anyone that believes illegal immigration is insignificant has yet had their lives affected by it. Try having an illegal alien who receives welfare, medicaid, food stamps, child child tax credits, is not insured or bonded and is paid cash under the table so he pays no taxes take work from you because he is able to do it for 25% what you can at your bottom price.

                              Let illegal aliens start taking jobs and dropping the income of doctors, lawyers, politicians and professors and everyone will sing a different tune about the illegal aliens. Imagine showing up for a colonoscopy and Juan, who just jumped the border two weeks ago, is performing the procedure. You'd run out like your pubes were ablaze.

                              The mindset of, "they're not affecting me" is so hypocritical, self-centered and ignorant, those of that mind are beyond help. If you are one who can justify illegal aliens plundering and pillaging our resources, consider this; what would your opinion be if one of these aliens raped and brutally killed your eight year old daughter? But, they're not all bad, right?

                              P.S. - If you say, I should have chosen a different profession, you can kiss my ***.


                              I wanted my son to ask..If they add up to nothing then can I (and my whole family) start getting everything for free also? Why not, what's one more?

                              Why would a few more make a difference to the 4 trillion budget?

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