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    Another low # bow Question

    Taking my nephew hunting this year. Hes shooting a PSE Rally. The IBO on it is 308.

    Currently hes pulling 38lbs at a 21 inch draw length. 430 grain arrow. When I punched the numbers into the Stickem Archery calculator, I got 16.2 ft lbs. I told him he needs to be pulling around 50lbs if he can get there.

    I know most charts suggest 35ft lbs of kinetic energy, but have any of you guys had success at any lower FPE? We will be hunting from about a 15ft double ladder stand. Think this is gonna be adequate, or should I have him use my crossbow? I'm really leery of having to track a deer for miles...
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    #2
    I personally think his arrow is way to heavy. Try going lighter but still stiff enough spine to handle his bow and use a COC head. He is pulling enough weight to kill a deer with a 15-20 yrd shot.

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      #3
      I figured the extra weight would be better since I try to get around 500 grains out of my longbow. I'll see what I can come up with tho.

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        #4
        I shoot a 400-430 Finished arrow out of my bow set at 60#. Long bow and Compound two different monsters lol. I would try and build him a lighter arrow and make his FOC a little more above average. Put the weight were it will benefit him the most.

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          #5
          Lighten his arrow weight. I shoot a heavy arrow, 560 grains out of my compound at 70#'s and that is 8 gpp, you nephew is pushing 11 gpp! yes extra weight will help, but that in my opinion is too heavy for 38's.

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            #6
            Arrow to heavy. My son killed his first buck with a bow w/35# 21" draw and about a 320 gr arrow. Keep shot close and make sure it's broadside.

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              #7
              Here is my sons set up from 2010. He was 10 yrs old, 23" draw and 35# bow. 295 gr arrow.



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              2011 shooting 40# hoyt kobalt. 24" inch draw 335gr arrow





              2012 PSE Revenge 48# 25.5 draw and 345gr arrow.




              Sharp broadhead and arrow placement is the name of the game. I would get 85 slick tricks and some goldtip ultralights or easton 500.

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                #8
                He also got complete pass throughs on all but 2. The fletching hung up on the exit.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by K86 View Post
                  Taking my nephew hunting this year. Hes shooting a PSE Rally. The IBO on it is 308.

                  Currently hes pulling 38lbs at a 21 inch draw length. 430 grain arrow. When I punched the numbers into the Stickem Archery calculator, I got 16.2 ft lbs. I told him he needs to be pulling around 50lbs if he can get there.

                  I know most charts suggest 35ft lbs of kinetic energy, but have any of you guys had success at any lower FPE? We will be hunting from about a 15ft double ladder stand. Think this is gonna be adequate, or should I have him use my crossbow? I'm really leery of having to track a deer for miles...
                  He does not need 50 pounds. Nowhere near it. A laid back angle blade coc. Work with em. Teach em to aim low. And he can kill the hell outta one farther than he will be able to shoot....

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                    #10
                    Planning on having him shoot the magnus 2 blade classics. I may switch and go buy him some stingers, but I have a lot of the classics sitting around.

                    The main reason I mentioned 50 to him was to try to get him to push himself. I don't live with him, and from what my dad says he hasn't been practicing a lot. I have a 3d target that im gonna make sure he can kill consistently before I get him in a stand. If he can't do that, I figure he can warm the couch. Nothing worse than tracking a poorly shot animal all over creation...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by K86 View Post
                      Planning on having him shoot the magnus 2 blade classics. I may switch and go buy him some stingers, but I have a lot of the classics sitting around.

                      The main reason I mentioned 50 to him was to try to get him to push himself. I don't live with him, and from what my dad says he hasn't been practicing a lot. I have a 3d target that im gonna make sure he can kill consistently before I get him in a stand. If he can't do that, I figure he can warm the couch. Nothing worse than tracking a poorly shot animal all over creation...
                      I wouldn't stress poundage nearly as much as a well placed shot. I am slowly getting my brother to the point of killing a deer, and I told him the goal is 40 pounds and perfect shots. Until he gets to that point I take him hunting as much as I can and have him judge every deer that comes in. It really gives the kid an appreciation for hunting

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                        #12
                        The PSE Radial X-Weave 100's are some really good, tough arrows for light poundage. An old girlfriend shot them and they worked out great.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by K86 View Post
                          Planning on having him shoot the magnus 2 blade classics. I may switch and go buy him some stingers, but I have a lot of the classics sitting around.

                          The main reason I mentioned 50 to him was to try to get him to push himself. I don't live with him, and from what my dad says he hasn't been practicing a lot. I have a 3d target that im gonna make sure he can kill consistently before I get him in a stand. If he can't do that, I figure he can warm the couch. Nothing worse than tracking a poorly shot animal all over creation...
                          For whitetails I would drop the weight down to 6-7 grains per pound. It'll still do the trick.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by fishycatfish View Post
                            The PSE Radial X-Weave 100's are some really good, tough arrows for light poundage. An old girlfriend shot them and they worked out great.
                            Found some at a really good price, so I ordered half a dozen. Thanks for the help guys!

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